Angela Rayner - 3 homes now

eazybee

^Well, after all, AR has a regional accent and has got above herself by getting a better job than anyone on here has. The cheek of it!One might even say there’s some envy on GN.^
A northern working class woman with no ‘airs & graces’, who was a teenage, unmarried mother, should know her place … and should definitely not be in a position to own two desirable properties.And, if she does manage to achieve that position, we should all be suspicious about how she got there
Classism is alive and well on GN

What a very silly post. A perfect example of inverted snobbery

Can you explain how this is an example of inverted snobbery, please?

As I understand it, inverted snobbery is claiming not to value things that people from what is perceived to be a 'higher class' hold dear. I can't see how that is working here at all. Actual snobbery, where someone is looked down upon, insinuations that their achievements must be because of 'handouts', expressions of surprise at how much money they have made when they have had few advantages, OTOH, is here in abundance, as it always is when AR is mentioned.

Casdon She probably has some of her very close family living in her house in Stockport, so she could well doing what we all aspire to do and helping out her children, whilst having a place just for her too. Alternatively, maybe her partner has sold his house, and this is their joint new one?

I’ll be honest, I don’t care.

Perhaps she commutes over summer.

I do not care either. Not my business.

Angela Raynor has 3 homes? So what, Farage, that 'man of the people' has 4.

Maremia

Angela Raynor has 3 homes? So what, Farage, that 'man of the people' has 4.

So he’s greedy too, but, in his position as leader of a political party
is he telling people that second homes are contributing to the lack of available housing and he’s going to do something about it?

whywhywhy

Who cares?
What about people who have lots of houses and rent them out to students at ridiculous prices? Some of these properties are unsafe and downright dangerous!
She has done well for herself so why can’t she have three houses? Some people are just blooming JEALOUS!

Are these people Labour MPs?
Surely not!

Oh, wait a minute ....

www.independent.co.uk/politics/labour-landlords-renters-rights-mps-b2804457.html
2025
www.landlordzone.co.uk/news/new-labour-now-has-more-landlord-mps-than-tories

Latter was 2024.

The reason this house purchase causes offence has nothing to do with snobbery or any of the other nonsense posted on this thread.

The Labour party has made a big 'thing' about second homes. Second hand home owners have been demonised for making it impossible for local people to get on the housing ladder, undermining local economies.

It has been made very clear by Labour that secondhand homes are a BAD thing and those who owned them should be castigated and taxed until they have to sell their second home at a loss. The worst second house owners are those who buy second homes in seaside areas.

So what has happened? A labour government minister has gone out and bought themselves a second home by the sea.

It doesn't matter whether the Labour minister is male or female, black or white, from the north , south, east or west was publicly educated or privately or never educated at all.

The only thing that matters is that a Labour government minister is saying. 'Do as I say, not as I do' and, essentially, that there is one rule for the rest of us oiks, but government ministers operate is some mystical sphere where ordinary rules do not apply to them.

Her main home seems to be in her constituency, and she has a government supplied home in London. In the same way that other MPs, who do not have grace and favour residents have homes in their constituencies and own/rent in London for their work.

But holiday homes by the seaside when you condemn everyone else who dares to do such things. Sorry, that is unacceptble.

^It doesn't matter whether the Labour minister is male or female, black or white, from the north , south, east or west was publicly educated or privately or never educated at all.;

I was just writing what I've said below before I quickly read your post * M0nica*.
Don't care is a good comment.

I don't care
- whether a politician has a rags to riches story
- whether they have a degree in a useful subject
- what class they are, or came from
- where they went to school
- what accent they have
- what colour they are

The list is endless, and irrelevant.

I do, however, care that they hide behind false words and actions when it comes to their own lives. How do they reconcile the two when they are full of inconsistencies?

I've said before I have no real axe to grind with Angela Rayner here. Except that in her position as Deputy PM she appears to say one thing, then goes off and does the complete opposite.

Can anyone point to what AR has said about second homes, please? I can't find anything. The only thing I can find that is even connected to AR is when Lisa Nandy stood in for her on Sky News and said that the Labour Party's housing policy was concerned with tilting the balance of power back towards first-time buyers and people who own their own homes to live in.

They have increased council tax on second homes, which is a big step in this direction, and the Renters' Rights Bill will make life much more secure for those at the mercy of private landlords.

I may well have missed comments from AR about second homes, and given that I disapprove of them in most circumstances I am in no way making a case for anything that makes it easier for some people to have several homes when others have none; but I am unable to find anything that points to hypocrisy on her part, and would be interested to see any quotes that show otherwise.

Thanks M0nica
An excellent post.

Escaped

I've said before I have no real axe to grind with Angela Rayner here. Except that in her position as Deputy PM she appears to say one thing, then goes off and does the complete opposite.
Precisely.
And reading GN, that action appears to be supported as OK, with weird attempts to divert the issue by references to a ^ Green trouser suit,^ or more expensive properties.

Mollygo

Thanks M0nica
An excellent post.

Escaped

I've said before I have no real axe to grind with Angela Rayner here. Except that in her position as Deputy PM she appears to say one thing, then goes off and does the complete opposite.
Precisely.
And reading GN, that action appears to be supported as OK, with weird attempts to divert the issue by references to a ^ Green trouser suit,^ or ^more expensive properties.^

What has AR actually said, Molly. I am obviously missing something as so many people have made reference to it. I've been away for a while and haven't seen much news, so I accept that I may have missed it, but even a detailed search hasn't thrown up anything AR has said about second home ownership.

Spot on comment on the nub of the matter Monica

ronib

Have a look at the Register of Interests MaizieD

That doesn't answer my question.

Are you implying that she has used political donations for personal gain?

ronib

Casdon in a nutshell there’s a thread on this site about finding it practically impossible to exist due to rising prices etc. £1.16p left to last til the end of the month. So being told that AR is worth £4.7 million and checking out donations of clothing given by Lord Ali have left me feeling somewhat confused. Seems to be a common theme in the Labour Party! Anyway am unexpectedly busy at the moment…..

That isn’t it in a nutshell ronib, you can’t have meant just the clothes. I think you’re trying to avoid answering a direct question about what exactly you were insinuating. It’s a serious issue. Perhaps you will return to put some flesh on your post tomorrow.

If Rayner had any sense she’d own this as one of the things on which she doesn’t agree with Labour Party thinking. It’s a broad church and allowances can be made - circumstances alter cases etc

Mollygo

Maremia

Angela Raynor has 3 homes? So what, Farage, that 'man of the people' has 4.

So he’s greedy too, but, in his position as leader of a political party
is he telling people that second homes are contributing to the lack of available housing and he’s going to do something about it?

I wish he would do just that, & lay-off the "man of the people" demonising of outsiders.

I listened to a phone in earlier. Yes the bbc attempts to reflect fairly. I was pleased at the number of callers saying this really is a non story. Look at Farrage, Hunt, Cleverley and more, they have property portfolios
It’s a British/English thing to get on the housing ladder, buy a second home if you can afford it because here, property usually pays dividends in the long term
Angela is acting outside the whippet owning expectations some have for “girls like her”. How very dare she

It seems very odd to have a Labour Government whose ministers espouse a belief in many homes for the rich even if that means no homes for the poor.

Who can the lower paid vote for now?

The lower paid, just like the higher paid, can vote for people who have policies of which they approve.

Renters' rights, higher CT for second homes, increased minimum wage, workers' rights, that sort of thing. Not everyone votes out of self-interest and bases their views on outdated notions of 'class'.

Casdon

ronib

Casdon in a nutshell there’s a thread on this site about finding it practically impossible to exist due to rising prices etc. £1.16p left to last til the end of the month. So being told that AR is worth £4.7 million and checking out donations of clothing given by Lord Ali have left me feeling somewhat confused. Seems to be a common theme in the Labour Party! Anyway am unexpectedly busy at the moment…..

That isn’t it in a nutshell ronib, you can’t have meant just the clothes. I think you’re trying to avoid answering a direct question about what exactly you were insinuating. It’s a serious issue. Perhaps you will return to put some flesh on your post tomorrow.

I really wish someone, anyone - would put flesh on the bones of their accusations against AR. What exactly has she said that she has since acted against?

Doodledog

The lower paid, just like the higher paid, can vote for people who have policies of which they approve.

Renters' rights, higher CT for second homes, increased minimum wage, workers' rights, that sort of thing. Not everyone votes out of self-interest and bases their views on outdated notions of 'class'.

Hmm. Fewer houses for rent, higher rents as a consequence, redundancies due to increased costs for businesses, fewer job vacancies, benefits exceeding workers wages….

There’s been another side to that coin I’m afraid.

I’m not disagreeing Lathyrus. We are living in rapidly changing times,
I’m in a friendship group where twenty years ago, we discussed buying a holiday home together, in my favourite county, Shropshire. As a group we could fairly easily put a deposit together and got a mortgage on a good property we could all have used, including with our children
I don’t claim we are a righteous group but on balance we agreed buying a second home was morally wrong for all of us and we would continue to book a big holiday let, twice a year for our jollies.
An investment would have meant holidays for us and our adult children, grand children were possible and our property value increased
I’m not cross wuth Angela. I am pleased we made the decision we did

Not sure if it fresh on the bones exactly.

Hansard 29 th Han this year

Angela Rayner

“The government recognises that excessive concentrations of second homes impact on the availability and affordability of homes for local residents to buy and rent…
councils will be able to charge a Council Tax premium but we do not think that is enough..”

In answer to a question
“I understand that pressures are particularly acute because of second homes….”

20th Jan

M0nica Wed 27-Aug-25 17:19:21

M0nica says it all.