Angela Rayner - 3 homes now

ronib

escaped

So, is PaynesGrey the old Germanshepherdsmum then? He pister sounds knowledgeable. I'm confused, not that takes much here!
If so, I'm delighted! Rock on!
Maybe a Christmas cruise coming up? 😆 🥳

It’s silverbrooks reincarnated not GSM. She’s probably got more sense than to want to rejoin? escaped
Basic reading skills apply?

Thanks for the explanation.

Allira

Whitewavemark2

escaped

Whitewavemark2

As an aside GSM was a conveyancing solicitor and not an authority on tax. You would be very ill- advised to take advice on such a complicated issue from a conveyancing solicitor.

We did have a tax expert for a short period - silverbrooks

As an aside, no one on here said anything about taking advice on tax affairs from Germanshepherdsmum. I think the words used were along the lines of being interested to hear the type of recommendations GSM would give AR when purchasing a property.

Well that’s ok then 🙄

Actually, a solicitor who deals with the laws regarding house sales and purchases should be up to date with changes in the law regarding stamp duty etc.
If not, they could cause untold problems to their clients.

This is a complicated case, and the conveyancing solicitors who dealt with Rayner’s case have said that it is too complicated for a conveyancing solicitor.

You need tax expert.

No. My previous username was Silverbrooks.

I would, Doodledog. Anything of that complexity, I would put in writing quoting the relevant legislation. In fact, I would put most things in writing. It covers someone professionally if the individual then choses to ignore the advice given or claims they were never told or told something different.

Yes, they have professional indemnity insurance but just like household and car insurance, premiums can rocket if a sucessful claim is made on the policy.

PaynesGrey

No. My previous username was Silverbrooks.

I would, Doodledog. Anything of that complexity, I would put in writing quoting the relevant legislation. In fact, I would put most things in writing. It covers someone professionally if the individual then choses to ignore the advice given or claims they were never told or told something different.

Yes, they have professional indemnity insurance but just like household and car insurance, premiums can rocket if a sucessful claim is made on the policy.

Hello😊.

Book in good use that you recommended.

My previous username was Silverbrooks.

Thank you PaynesGrey.
All this name changing through necessity is a right palava and confusing! Me too!

escaped

He pister = the poster
Told you I'm excited! 🍾

You would think that newspaper editors would have learned to get their facts right before publishing a story. She doesn't own 3 properties. She occupies 3 properties and owns one...not the same thing at all.

escaped

^I would be surprised if a competent professional had steered her wrongly on this but queries do sometimes get pushed to junior, less experienced members of staff and wrong advice is given.^

I wondered that too.

My thinking...... I guess there's solicitors, and solicitors.

We've sold a number of properties and businesses over the years, and IF it was a sale beyond the norm, (where we also owned a business or had a trust in place), then we employed the best lawyers whose firm had experts in all areas. There were a lot of complex questions.

Our last move to the coast, however, was dealt with online by a lightweight conveyancing company who asked nothing. It didn't matter as our other assets were no longer relevant, most having been offloaded. I assume the big difference in AR's case lies in the issue with the involvement in the young son's trust? As someone said, a year later, when the son was 18, might have helped and been correct?

Is there not a yes/no tick box that says, do you have interests in any other properties, or am I dreaming?

Whatever the outcome, I hope she and her family are left alone.

No - there are solicitors and accountants

PaynesGrey

No. My previous username was Silverbrooks.

I would, Doodledog. Anything of that complexity, I would put in writing quoting the relevant legislation. In fact, I would put most things in writing. It covers someone professionally if the individual then choses to ignore the advice given or claims they were never told or told something different.

Yes, they have professional indemnity insurance but just like household and car insurance, premiums can rocket if a sucessful claim is made on the policy.

I can't see AR being too worried about rocketing premiums, considering the personal cost of this debacle.

I am highly unlikely to ever need complex tax advice, but this is a salutary lesson to always get legal or financial advice in writing, isn't it?

There is a brand new post on GN saying that Angela Raynor only owns one house.

mum2three

You would think that newspaper editors would have learned to get their facts right before publishing a story. She doesn't own 3 properties. She occupies 3 properties and owns one...not the same thing at all.

Ach, facts rarely get in the way of a story where the media are concerned. Particularly when it is detrimental to anyone connected to the Labour Party.

Maremia

There is a brand new post on GN saying that Angela Raynor only owns one house.

There is, but it has been variously castigated as being delusional, boring and more. As I say, no opportunity to rail against anything or anyone to do with the LP can be ignored.

mum2three

You would think that newspaper editors would have learned to get their facts right before publishing a story. She doesn't own 3 properties. She occupies 3 properties and owns one...not the same thing at all.

You are asking a lot (so am I) of our exceedingly partial press, owned by exceedingly partial and very rich owners.

I wonder what cover there would be if N. Farage went on trial for - just as an example - treason? The silence would be deafening from the press!

Treason, surely talking down our country in a foreign capital, when he should have been doing his day job of representing Clacton in Parliament. Could that be treason?

I believe treason involves killing- the monarch, Lord Chancellor- not talking in America?
The notion that MPs represent their constituency is a bit outdated?
Maremia

Sky were not happy with him, the political analysis was quite unfavourable, which did surprise me - I don’t think he called it right at all.

It certainly is with Farage. He does everything he can, but represent the ordinary folk who voted him in.

Jamie Raskin called him out. Worth watching.

And, of course, Mr Farage purchased a second home in his constituency … oh, but apparently it was ‘purchased’ by his partner🤔

www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/23/nigel-farage-clacton-home-bought-girlfriend-property

The difference is that Nigel Farage has enough intelligence, if not integrity, to apply the rules correctly and competently. He has not broken the law.

LizzieDrip

And, of course, Mr Farage purchased a second home in his constituency … oh, but apparently it was ‘purchased’ by his partner🤔

www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/23/nigel-farage-clacton-home-bought-girlfriend-property

Unmarried couple can get away with a lot if they have a house each one of which happens to be at the seaside or some beauty spot
Married couples find it much more difficult to justify 2 properties as main home. It’s not just Stamp Duty, any Council Tax surcharged on second homes can be dodged too.
AR got caught out many get away with it because there are not the resources to check on everyone.

Chill - AR is standing down.

ronib

Chill - AR is standing down.

Get the champagne out 🍾🍾🍾

Angela Rayner has resigned from her role in the Government and Deputy Leader. What a shame somebody who has obviously excelled at getting ahead despite being female and disadvantaged, didn't get her ducks in a row.

Interesting times ahead in politics I think.

The furore was detracting from far more important things the Government has to deal with so Ms Rayner has done the right thing imo.