Angela Rayner - 3 homes now

She’s shown integrity. Great resignation lettrr

I knew she wouldn’t last the week.

Quote Iam64 Fri 05-Sept-25 12:21:51
She’s shown integrity. Great resignation letter

She has Iam

Iam64

She’s shown integrity. Great resignation lettrr

I dont know about everything, but I would have thought integrity, and a bunch of other things, is what she has not shown.
Hence her resignation.

ronib

I believe treason involves killing- the monarch, Lord Chancellor- not talking in America?
The notion that MPs represent their constituency is a bit outdated?
Maremia

Treason - the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.

She has resigned.

The government doesn’t need Nigel Farage to overthrow it - it’s doing a brilliant job all by itself…. Leave well alone Nigel. It’s self implosion time for Labour.

Allira

The furore was detracting from far more important things the Government has to deal with so Ms Rayner has done the right thing imo.

I think you're right, but it's a shame that it has come to this.

She was warned to seek tax advice by the conveyency company but did not.

fancythat

Iam64

She’s shown integrity. Great resignation lettrr

I dont know about everything, but I would have thought integrity, and a bunch of other things, is what she has not shown.
Hence her resignation.

Having looked up the dictionary definition of integrity, then yes, she may have acted with integrity.

But she has been very foolish though. She I would have thought, had many experts on such financial matters, including trusts, at her fingertips.

I’m watching the BBC on this.

It seems that two firms said in writing that they thought she should pay the lower rate of SDLT but at least one gave a caution that she should seek expert tax advice to confirm this - which she did not.

Because she did not heed this caution, Sir Laurie Magnus considers that she cannot be considered to have met the highest standards of conduct and, as such, the ministerial code was breached.

She says in her resignation letter:

I deeply regret my decision to not seek additional specialist tax advice given both my position as Housing Secretary and my complex family arrangements. I take full responsibility for this error.

Such a shame.

Which sort of "two firms"?

Allira

The furore was detracting from far more important things the Government has to deal with so Ms Rayner has done the right thing imo.

That’s a good point. It saves KS having to stand by her which would take attention from other more important matters.
It’s nothing to do with whether she had a hard life, or the issue of her claimed social class, which I wasn’t aware of until it was raised on GN.

The fact that no opportunity to rail against anything or anyone to do with the LP can be ignored. is true, of whichever party is in power.
Think how many GN’s including me railed against what was perceived as wrong in the previous governments.

ronib

The government doesn’t need Nigel Farage to overthrow it - it’s doing a brilliant job all by itself…. Leave well alone Nigel. It’s self implosion time for Labour.

" Nigel" is absolutely terrifying.

Come back the old school Conservatives.

She’s shown integrity
😂😂😂

Sir Laurie Magnus considers that she cannot be considered to have met the highest standards of conduct and, as such, the ministerial code was breached

Mm, interesting!

A thought occurs to me…

Did Nigel Farage ‘meet the highest standards of conduct’ this week when he talked down his own country in the USA; lied to the USA congress committee; and recommended that the USA implement financial sanctions on the UK … his own country???

Maybe The Telegraph would like to investigate that.

Nigel isn’t the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Housing etc. And boy isn’t he going to capitalise on this fiasco?

ronib

Nigel isn’t the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Housing etc. And boy isn’t he going to capitalise on this fiasco?

Nigel....the word makes me puke.

Yes , he will.

ronib

Nigel isn’t the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Housing etc. And boy isn’t he going to capitalise on this fiasco?

But he is the leader of a political party in the UK parliament.

ronib

Nigel isn’t the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Housing etc. And boy isn’t he going to capitalise on this fiasco?

Something tells me that won’t happen in the way you think it will.

fancythat

Which sort of "two firms"?

Law firms. This is an extract from Sir Laurie Magnus's letter to the PM:

I have reviewed relevant documentation from the property transaction. This has included the advice she received at the time from the legal firms involved and the associated documentation that was prepared for her to effect the purchase. This advice gave rise to Ms Rayner’s understanding – which I consider to have been held in good faith – that the lower rate of SDLT was applicable when purchasing the property in Hove.

It is not necessary for me to detail the specific contents of this advice or the associated documentation but, having reviewed it, I would draw four conclusions:

a) Ms Rayner was open about the existence of the trust and considered that, between them, the firms advising her had appropriate knowledge and awareness of the details and circumstances of the trust;

b) On the basis of the advice she received, Ms Rayner believed that the lower rate of SDLT would be applicable; indeed she was twice informed in writing that this was the case; but

c) In those two instances, that advice was qualified by the acknowledgment that it did not constitute expert tax advice and was accompanied by a suggestion, or in one case a recommendation, that specific tax advice be obtained; and

d) If such expert tax advice had been received, as it later was, it would likely have advised her that a higher rate of SDLT was payable.

It might surprise you Casdon that Nigel isn’t my choice for next prime minister but it’s being handed to him on a silver platter.

ronib

It might surprise you Casdon that Nigel isn’t my choice for next prime minister but it’s being handed to him on a silver platter.

I didn’t imply he was your choice ronib, although I'm not sure why you call him by his first name? What I said was that I don’t think he will capitalise in the way you think. He has dealings of his own, suffice to say.

If Farage's behaviour was put under the spotlight of Nolan, he would fail on a regular basis.

Here's reminder of the Nolan Principles:

1.1 Selflessness

Holders of public office should act solely in terms of the public interest.

1.2 Integrity

Holders of public office must avoid placing themselves under any obligation to people or organisations that might try inappropriately to influence them in their work. They should not act or take decisions in order to gain financial or other material benefits for themselves, their family, or their friends. They must declare and resolve any interests and relationships.

1.3 Objectivity

Holders of public office must act and take decisions impartially, fairly and on merit, using the best evidence and without discrimination or bias.

1.4 Accountability

Holders of public office are accountable to the public for their decisions and actions and must submit themselves to the scrutiny necessary to ensure this.

1.5 Openness

Holders of public office should act and take decisions in an open and transparent manner. Information should not be withheld from the public unless there are clear and lawful reasons for so doing.

1.6 Honesty

Holders of public office should be truthful.

1.7 Leadership

Holders of public office should exhibit these principles in their own behaviour and treat others with respect. They should actively promote and robustly support the principles and challenge poor behaviour wherever it occurs.

It’s Reform UK’s conference this weekend, with AR stepping down from her posts and Nadine Dories joining Reform I expect a lot of grandstanding and headlines over the next couple of days.