“Migrants are more important than residents" A statement that the Labour party will live to regret?

woodenspoon

Keir’s been on the bbc. In no particular order: he has a flag of St George; he absolutely wants the hotels closed down; he wouldn’t like an asylum seekers hotel in his road; he wouldn’t want his daughter walking past a load of male migrants.

He must, according to some on here, be a racist.

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growstuff

Hmm! Two men were charged on Saturday in Epping. One was a man from Loughton; the other a man from Harlow. Neither sounds like an "Epping lady" to me.

As I just posted, the Pink Ladies were not the only ones there.

Why assume they were one homogenous group?

Well, well. Leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) will not threaten peace in Northern Ireland, leading ­lawyers have claimed in a report backed by former Labour home secretary Jack Straw.

I don't assume that at all.

BTW, is one of the "Pink Ladies" the Reform Branch Secretary, Karen McIvor? (Just wondering because she seems to be present in many of the photos I've seen (wearing pink in at least one photo.)

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well, well. Leaving the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) will not threaten peace in Northern Ireland, leading ­lawyers have claimed in a report backed by former Labour home secretary Jack Straw.

Source please.

Interesting.

That was to FGT2. 16.21pm

growstuff

Hmm! Two men were charged on Saturday in Epping. One was a man from Loughton; the other a man from Harlow. Neither sounds like an "Epping lady" to me.

The Pink Ladies were at the Canary Wharf protest.

Incidentally, the chief executive and largest shareholder of Britannia Hotels is doing quite nicely out of the Government contracts to house asylum seekers.

Its chief executive, founder, and largest shareholder remains Alex Langsam. Langsam is a non-domiciled UK resident, registered as living in Austria for tax purposes since 1999. His net personal worth was valued at £401 million in 2025 by The Sunday Times.

Nor does he pay tax here on the huge sums he earns from the Government.
Rachel Reeves? Any comment?

eazybee

^Why weren’t bus loads of right wing, flag draped protesters flying around the country 2 years ago - when the Tories were in power🤔^

Because the country was not being flooded by thousands of illegal migrants at that time. Every attempt that was made to deport them was thwarted by Human Rights lawyers.
Why have you only realised just this?

None our way back then.

Here growstuff -

www.lbc.co.uk/article/jack-straw-leaving-echr-good-friday-5HjdBhd_2/

Article 8 allows people to bring their partners and children to the country once they are granted refugee status. But the numbers have rocketed; just over 20,000 visas were granted in the year to June 2025, a 30 per cent rise on the previous 12 months.

Cooper also said she’s examining proposals for refugees to prove their financial stability before being allowed to bring over family members, and confirmed changes to the asylum process which will remove the power of judges to hear appeals, handing them instead to an expert panel.

Source: the i paper today

So it WAS true -

“ The current law has put the Government in a tough spot. When the Home Office filed a legal appeal to keep foreigners at Epping’s Bell Hotel, it was forced to argue the asylum seekers’ human rights trumped the rights of locals.

Technically a win for the Government, it could have hardly been worse for Starmer politically as it allowed his opponents to present him as being against the people.”

Source: the i newspaper this evening.

It's just another mess left by the Tories that Labour has to clean up. Starmer must resolve it to pull the rug from under Farage if Labour are to do better in the polls. Following Farage down the nationalism rabbit is a foolish Tory policy. They need Starmer and Cooper to succeed on immigration if the Tories want their voters back from Reform. Badenoch should stop sniping and be constructive (if she has any ideas at all).

I don’t care what anybody says, I rate Yvette Cooper highly. She has already done more than any other Home Secretary in getting to grips with immigration, she isn’t a self publicist, but she is on it. She understands the brief, and bit by bit she is laying foundations. In my opinion she will be judged after her time as making a real and lasting difference.

Casdon

I don’t care what anybody says, I rate Yvette Cooper highly. She has already done more than any other Home Secretary in getting to grips with immigration, she isn’t a self publicist, but she is on it. She understands the brief, and bit by bit she is laying foundations. In my opinion she will be judged after her time as making a real and lasting difference.

I agree with you - and, at least, she doesn't wear green trouser suits.

Grantanow

It's just another mess left by the Tories that Labour has to clean up. Starmer must resolve it to pull the rug from under Farage if Labour are to do better in the polls. Following Farage down the nationalism rabbit is a foolish Tory policy. They need Starmer and Cooper to succeed on immigration if the Tories want their voters back from Reform. Badenoch should stop sniping and be constructive (if she has any ideas at all).

You're whistling in the wind if you think Badenoch will ever change - that's her "modus operandi". I actually feel a tad sympathetic for some backbench Conservative MPs because I think there are some decent ones, but they're keeping very quiet. Maybe they're hoping there will be a new leader soon and they don't want to be associated with this one.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

So it WAS true -

“ The current law has put the Government in a tough spot. When the Home Office filed a legal appeal to keep foreigners at Epping’s Bell Hotel, it was forced to argue the asylum seekers’ human rights trumped the rights of locals.

Technically a win for the Government, it could have hardly been worse for Starmer politically as it allowed his opponents to present him as being against the people.”

Source: the i newspaper this evening.

But but but ... if you read the judgment, the panel stated categorically that it didn't take that into account and dismissed it.

The appeal panel also stated that it wasn't its role to decide on the rights and wrongs of the issue. The role of an appeal court is to examine the legalities of a previous verdict. It concentrated on planning issues and decided that the council hadn't followed procedures. The most important outcome of the appeal verdict was that the expulsion of resident asylum seekers within such a short time-frame was not justified (and stated that the previous judge had no legal grounds for imposing the condition) because there is going to be a full hearing in a few weeks anyway.

This was a judgment on a temporary injunction, which has been weaponised by Farage and others.

The pink lady who was arrested at Sunday's protest has been charged.
NOT for unfurling a flag.
NOT for hurling abuse.
She has been charged with failing to comply with the conditions of participation of a procession - being in the wrong place.
Fair enough.
She is from Chigwell, (which is about 9 miles from Epping).

growstuff

Casdon

I don’t care what anybody says, I rate Yvette Cooper highly. She has already done more than any other Home Secretary in getting to grips with immigration, she isn’t a self publicist, but she is on it. She understands the brief, and bit by bit she is laying foundations. In my opinion she will be judged after her time as making a real and lasting difference.

I agree with you - and, at least, she doesn't wear green trouser suits.

Why on earth does what she wears matter?

She has a good brain and is putting it to use to implement policies the majority voted for.

The more I read GN, thd more I can see a lot of people upset and lashing out because their noses have been put out of joint.

Has anyone seen the awful footage on Facebook of an Asian ( or Chinese) NHS worked being accosted in a park by a horrible foul mouthed racist telling her to ‘go home’. People like that have been given carte Blanchett by Reform to behave like that and it sickens me.

MayBee70

Has anyone seen the awful footage on Facebook of an Asian ( or Chinese) NHS worked being accosted in a park by a horrible foul mouthed racist telling her to ‘go home’. People like that have been given carte Blanchett by Reform to behave like that and it sickens me.

Societal fears, prejudices, or political motives have always led to both groups an individuals who decide to take the law into their own hands and either deal out punishment themselves or create an atmosphere were it can happen, without fair trials or evidence. Think of:

The Salem Witch Trials
The Spanish Inquisition
The European Witch Hunts
The McCarthy Era
The French Reign of Terror
The Red Scare

How very true PoliticsNerd! And so good to see not just happening in Britain!

carte Blanchett

I know that was autocorrect, Maybee but that made me 😀

MayBee70

Has anyone seen the awful footage on Facebook of an Asian ( or Chinese) NHS worked being accosted in a park by a horrible foul mouthed racist telling her to ‘go home’. People like that have been given carte Blanchett by Reform to behave like that and it sickens me.

No, I haven't.

Nasty, and stupid.

I'm not sure I would call it "good" but yes, wrecking the lives of our neighbours in this way is international.