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Stop the BBC giving prominence to Reform

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Jennerdysphoria Mon 01-Sept-25 10:46:08

Reform only have 4 MP's, yet the BBC is giving the party massive exposure. I copied the below from Threads, because it makes the point well. I have just put in my own complaint (it's an easy process).

"Please take 5 mins online to complain formally to the BBC if you are fed up hearing from Reform (and only Reform). Please tick the box that says yes you do want a reply. They have to respond.
It’s important to complain on the record. A future FOI request would show the number of complaints. The charter is up for renewal. A timely FOI request could be a useful tool in defending balance in the future BBC. Please do this. And do it repeatedly whenever the bias is apparent."

Plunger Tue 02-Sept-25 17:32:31

winterwhite

The two main parties often seem identical, I agree, GG13, but the media are allowing Reform to punch well above their weight of 4 MPs. Absurd to be boasting of what they would do in power. There are other and more important subjects than immigration that other parties such as the Greens and Lib Dems are talking about. I agree with whoever said it’s lazy journalism.

So how many MPs do you reckon political parties need before they are 'allowed ' to be reported by the BBC? 10, 15 20????? Didn't get complaints when the Greens only had one ( Caroline Lucas).

Florence2 Tue 02-Sept-25 17:44:27

I won’t be signing. Just about had enough of Labour, they’ve done nothing to address the illegal immigrant issue, no wonder flags are popping up all over the place, how much more are we expected to take (and pay for through our taxes)? I used to be so proud to be British, sadly no longer. If I was younger I’d be seeking a new life (legally) Down Under.

growstuff Tue 02-Sept-25 17:55:18

Apparently, flags aren't making a political point about immigrants. They're appearing as a spontaneous act of patriotism, as an attempt to take them back from the immigration protesters and their ilk (allegedly).

growstuff Tue 02-Sept-25 17:59:05

Allira

I'm not a woke leftie but I don't support Farage or watch GB News either.

And I thought I was quite sensible - obviously not 😁

It would appear that you're not too intelligent or morally superior. wink

Join the club!

Colls Tue 02-Sept-25 18:04:17

Mouse

I think you’ll find that Jeremy Corbin and co have the title of fastest growing political party. The Independent wrote an article about it.

But I get the feeling that they are mostly derided. angry
Jennerdysphoria, you are right. Being kind to the Beeb, I'd say it is because the opposition is sooo weak - but they should be shown for what they are.
Farage shouts and strops and I suppose gets better viewer figures. But he is a disgrace, he is grossly over represented. Worse still he is never properly questioned about his vile and destructive policies. Never asked to back up his claims; never held to account for the damage Brexit did. angry
Look up Ian Hislop on the topic on YouTube. smile
I will definitely sign.

PS. Love that phrase "Farage is a pound shop trump".

Allira Tue 02-Sept-25 18:08:03

growstuff

Allira

I'm not a woke leftie but I don't support Farage or watch GB News either.

And I thought I was quite sensible - obviously not 😁

It would appear that you're not too intelligent or morally superior. wink

Join the club!

😁

Allira Tue 02-Sept-25 18:10:10

Look up Ian Hislop on the topic on YouTube.

I'd listen to Ian Hislop reading the back of a cornflakes packet!!

flump Tue 02-Sept-25 18:27:06

Barbadosbelle.

You are rude aren't you. It's elitist to say I'm one of the hoi polloi when you have no idea as to where I am in society.
So you know, I'm quite happy with the successes I have had in my life. As for being venomous; pot, kettle, black?

You assume because I criticise Farage and Tice that I do so because I am jealous. How very funny!
I know several people who have been successful and become wealthy through their hard work and that's fine by me. But then, they are, also, very pleasant people.

I don't judge people by their financial status but by what they say and do, which is why I don't like Reform or their ideas.

StoneofDestiny Tue 02-Sept-25 19:10:02

I agree - the balance is all wrong. Anybody would think they were the official opposition. In Parliament we have 399 Labour, 120 Tory. 79 Lib Dem’s, SNP 9, Sinn Fein 7, DUP 5, Green 4 Reform 4. (and the rest with less)
They are not even close to being entitled to have the media coverage they are getting.
Polls are irrelevant on this right now as the media coverage steers the agenda - give them the coverage and it gives the impression they are more important than they are.

The irony - Farage has rarely attended Parliament and rarely visits his own constituency. He has been in the USA more than his own constituency.

Never has there been a more divisive figure in politics. He has just as the National Front and The EDL turned the National Flag into divisive symbol. It’s as if you don’t spray paint roads and walls with the national flag or mount one on a lamp post you are not proud of your country! Somehow mobs draped in flags outside asylum hostels are thinking they are representing the majority rather than embarrassing us.

We need more balanced reporting with some honesty - including how Brexit, Farage’s project, has affected this country for the worst.

StoneofDestiny Tue 02-Sept-25 19:17:32

All I can say is look at History and the rise of the Nazi party

Yes. The Nazi plan went something like this: demonise a minority, blame them for all the countries problems, turn the public against them, promise your supporters you will solve all their problems quickly but not necessarily how you will do it, fly flags of your party everywhere - even if it’s not ‘your flag’, and incite groups to attack those who don’t support you or who you perceive as your enemy.

StoneofDestiny Tue 02-Sept-25 19:43:17

Florence2
Just about had enough of Labour, they’ve done nothing to address the illegal immigrant issue, no wonder flags are popping up all over the place, how much more are we expected to take (and pay for through our taxes)?

Labour have been in power just over 1 year. Tories were in power 14 years and brought in the Asylum Hotels.. You clearly expect Labour to do in 1 year what the Tories couldn’t do with 14 years and 5 different PM’s.

I find it unfathomable how anybody believes Farage should or could run this country. Farage said clearly he wanted to work for Trump and Musk and live in America - the same Musk who made a Nazi salute. The same Trump who is destroying Democracy using mobs and force to override process and create Dictatorship.
Farage rarely visits his constituency - he is in the USA more than he is in Parliament or canton. He has done nothing to improve the lives of his constituents.
How does anybody think he could run Britain?

spabbygirl Tue 02-Sept-25 19:51:59

StoneofDestiny

Florence2
Just about had enough of Labour, they’ve done nothing to address the illegal immigrant issue, no wonder flags are popping up all over the place, how much more are we expected to take (and pay for through our taxes)?

Labour have been in power just over 1 year. Tories were in power 14 years and brought in the Asylum Hotels.. You clearly expect Labour to do in 1 year what the Tories couldn’t do with 14 years and 5 different PM’s.

I find it unfathomable how anybody believes Farage should or could run this country. Farage said clearly he wanted to work for Trump and Musk and live in America - the same Musk who made a Nazi salute. The same Trump who is destroying Democracy using mobs and force to override process and create Dictatorship.
Farage rarely visits his constituency - he is in the USA more than he is in Parliament or canton. He has done nothing to improve the lives of his constituents.
How does anybody think he could run Britain?

well said StoneofDestiny, I couldn't agree more

StoneofDestiny Tue 02-Sept-25 19:57:12

Clacton autocorrect.

TerriBull Tue 02-Sept-25 20:54:18

Oh my God! I just love these comments along the lines of "do none of you understand how the Nazi party gained momentum? like we do" Well yes strangely as one of the common, barely educated people, I have read all about Germany being crippled by the Versailles Treaty in the aftermath of WW1, The Weimer Republic that followed, raging inflation and the rise of nationalism, scapegoating the Jews and the Final Solution.

Firstly, I think it's a complete misnomer to blame migrants for the mess this country and our western counterparts are in. France is on the brink of calling in the IMF allegedly and we may not be far behind them. Covid was unprecedented and played a huge part as well as the undoubted ill researched manner in handing out billion dollar contracts to charlatans for PPE and the like. Everything necessary that had to be put in place, the overly long lock down, depending on a personal point of view, the huge losses businesses have had to sustain in the time of Covid, furloughing, working from home, ancillary businesses that supported workers requirement going to the wall especially in hospitality, all of these have contributed to our now huge national debt. Whether a different government would have handled it any better is a matter of conjecture. We are where we are, trillions of pounds in debt. It is natural people will question our government in what would seem the profligate choice of placing migrants in hotels. As Macron has said "we make it too attractive here" why would he say that? if he as a Frenchman didn't see our country as a magnet. Whilst many of those asylum seekers may well be fleeing war and famine and have good intentions to their host country, some don't! and some are economic migrants, as was the previous cases with the Albanians, whose villages were depleted of men at a time when their country needs to be rebuilt as a new tourist destination, very beautiful from what I read. So we have the dichotomy of those who think we shouldn't accept any because they view them all as potential criminals and those who think we should be open to everyone and can't or won't see it from the perspective of people who are worried about the safety of their children. Neither is an accurate rationale. It is nevertheless a fact that here and in mainland Europe sexual assaults, rapes and murders have been disproportionately committed by asylum seekers as a percentage of their numbers. The welcoming stance has all but gone cold in Germany, Austria, Italy, Greece, Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden who have all taken their fair share of asylum seekers. Then of course there are the members of EU countries, that steadfastly refuse to, for example Hungry and Poland who just don't take any "because well we don't want to, because we want to stay white and Christian" well if any nations needed their noses rubbed in ethnic diversity, when a member of the previous Labour administration allegedly expressed that as a desire for Britain, then so it would be the eastern bloc, so entrenched in their mono culture mindset, in other words doing nothing as far as accepting any migrants into their communities, apart from Ukrainians who aren't that different. A bit similar to the Irish diaspora to England amongst their other destinations.

I just don't think some of you get that the common people know just how they are perceived as a group that don't matter, "we're going to stick these migrant hotels in your community, no Keir wouldn't like it in his road, or his daughter walking past a group of young migrant men, but you lot can just suck it up because, you just don't matter, well maybe before an election you do, but certainly not after" So along comes Farage who just happens to be a good orator and taps into a general discontent with being ruled by the out of touch and throws them a glimmer of hope, even if we know in our heart of hearts that Reform almost certainly can't and won't deliver, but their adherents will say, almost justifiably "well what have Tories and Labour ever given us?"

Barbadosbelle Tue 02-Sept-25 20:57:05

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GrannyGravy13 Tue 02-Sept-25 21:07:35

TerriBull another excellent, articulate post 👏👏👏

Glenfinnan Tue 02-Sept-25 21:41:01

Everyone I know is fed up with Labour and their broken promises … that’s why Reform is coming to the fore! Tories tore lumps out of each other .. so that’s why they lost! I’m in despair!

RSALLAN2002 Tue 02-Sept-25 22:05:17

Perhaps Tories and Labour stirred up resentment and division with their self serving, unprincipled governments and failure to acknowledge widespread concern about immigration. Perhaps Reform are addressing these issues, not stirring things up. I'd be interested to know where you get your fact about immigration making an economic contribution. As I understand it the economy is more or less standing still while the population is increasing, through net immigration - ie we are all getting poorer.

Allira Tue 02-Sept-25 22:06:40

Well summed up Terribull.

StoneofDestiny Tue 02-Sept-25 22:13:35

TerriBull

Summing up your post - the populace knows Reform are full of empty promises but they will turn to them for improvement?
Not much faith in people's judgement then.

Not sure why people in migrant hotels are perceived as predators to girls either. Our prisons are full of UK born convicted predators, murderers, rapists and burglars. These criminals lived on our streets and we walked amongst them every day. Funny - nobody thought them a threat, yet they were! Maybe because they didn't live in an asylum hostel?

Jennerdysphoria Wed 03-Sept-25 07:03:57

GrannyGravy13

As Reform are leading multiple opinion polls a large proportion of the electorate are interested in them and their opinions.

And multiple opinion polls can be inaccurate, feeding misleading sensational headines to the media

publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201719/ldselect/ldppdm/106/10603.htm

Bukkie Wed 03-Sept-25 07:19:00

Those of you who say you don't know anyone who supports Reform are either very naive or living under a stone. We have just returned from two weeks in Norway, a simply beautiful unspoilt country and EVERY fellow passenger has said they voted or will vote Reform next time.

Casdon Wed 03-Sept-25 07:59:52

I don’t believe you Bukkie, sorry. Reform does not have 100% support in any large crowd of people, no single party does. We all think differently.

Teazel2 Wed 03-Sept-25 08:19:50

Bukkie

Those of you who say you don't know anyone who supports Reform are either very naive or living under a stone. We have just returned from two weeks in Norway, a simply beautiful unspoilt country and EVERY fellow passenger has said they voted or will vote Reform next time.

I believe you, the levels of anger and despair are growing daily. Apparently Reeves is coming for our homes, pensions and savings!

Casdon Wed 03-Sept-25 08:30:10

Patently 100% of the voting population do not support Reform!