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Angela Rayner

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growstuff Wed 03-Sept-25 18:12:50

Poppyred

LizzieDrip

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Some people are says setting up a Trust can be a minefield. I’m sure it can be. However that’s not the point in my opinion.

Angela Rayner consulted a supposedly top firm for advice.

I would be very interested to know the timing of the setting up of the Trust on the other house and her allegedly transferring her 25% interest in it into the Trust. If that happened just before she bought the flat, it smacks of deliberate tax evasion. Which is illegal.

It depends how much detail was given to her advisers I suppose. I wonder how they feel about their reputation being tarnished in this way? Certainly not good PR for them regarding clients.

Let’s hope we are all given full transparency on the matter soon as until then this debacle won’t go away.

Have you watched her interview with Beth Rigby where timings are fully explained?

Oh pleaseeeeee

Well, have you?

growstuff Wed 03-Sept-25 18:11:33

Spinnaker

Desdemona

There will be a full paper trail of all the advice she was given, the information she supplied to the advisers and a timeline of events surely?

You'd like to think so (not you specifically) but this is the labour party - it's either been shredded or doctored 😉

Don't be ridiculous!

growstuff Wed 03-Sept-25 18:11:12

eazybee

I have watched her interview, read her statement and read various newspapers' accounts of the purpose and methods of setting up trust funds.

She needs to go.
This is the second exploration of her property affairs and she has not come out well from either.
I have watched her interview, read her statement and read various newspapers' accounts of the purpose and methods of setting up trust funds.

You've read all this stuff. Presumably you can say what she did wrong.

Spinnaker Wed 03-Sept-25 18:10:45

Desdemona

There will be a full paper trail of all the advice she was given, the information she supplied to the advisers and a timeline of events surely?

You'd like to think so (not you specifically) but this is the labour party - it's either been shredded or doctored 😉

Desdemona Wed 03-Sept-25 18:06:14

There will be a full paper trail of all the advice she was given, the information she supplied to the advisers and a timeline of events surely?

eazybee Wed 03-Sept-25 18:01:11

I have watched her interview, read her statement and read various newspapers' accounts of the purpose and methods of setting up trust funds.

She needs to go.
This is the second exploration of her property affairs and she has not come out well from either.
I have watched her interview, read her statement and read various newspapers' accounts of the purpose and methods of setting up trust funds.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 03-Sept-25 17:53:31

I think best to publish the advice - redacting personal details. What’s the problem? The hole is getting deeper.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 03-Sept-25 17:46:21

Angela Rayner still has an interest in the constituency house in Ashton under Lyne - which triggers the payment of additional stamp duty on the flat in Hove.

Someone in her position cannot possibly have failed to understand that she still had an interest in the constituency house - she would have had clear and detailed advice when the Trust was set up.

I imagine the tax advisers will be double checking what they were told about all this. Their reputation is on the line and they won’t like it if they are thrown under the bus.

Both sides to this will want their say as both sides have reputations to safeguard. There’s a lot at stake here, not just £40k.

Poppyred Wed 03-Sept-25 17:29:45

LizzieDrip

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Some people are says setting up a Trust can be a minefield. I’m sure it can be. However that’s not the point in my opinion.

Angela Rayner consulted a supposedly top firm for advice.

I would be very interested to know the timing of the setting up of the Trust on the other house and her allegedly transferring her 25% interest in it into the Trust. If that happened just before she bought the flat, it smacks of deliberate tax evasion. Which is illegal.

It depends how much detail was given to her advisers I suppose. I wonder how they feel about their reputation being tarnished in this way? Certainly not good PR for them regarding clients.

Let’s hope we are all given full transparency on the matter soon as until then this debacle won’t go away.

Have you watched her interview with Beth Rigby where timings are fully explained?

Oh pleaseeeeee

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 03-Sept-25 17:28:25

PaynesGrey

Why don't you read her statement?

I’d like to read the statement from her tax adviser more. What was disclosed and when. Always good to cross check surely?

LizzieDrip Wed 03-Sept-25 16:55:18

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Some people are says setting up a Trust can be a minefield. I’m sure it can be. However that’s not the point in my opinion.

Angela Rayner consulted a supposedly top firm for advice.

I would be very interested to know the timing of the setting up of the Trust on the other house and her allegedly transferring her 25% interest in it into the Trust. If that happened just before she bought the flat, it smacks of deliberate tax evasion. Which is illegal.

It depends how much detail was given to her advisers I suppose. I wonder how they feel about their reputation being tarnished in this way? Certainly not good PR for them regarding clients.

Let’s hope we are all given full transparency on the matter soon as until then this debacle won’t go away.

Have you watched her interview with Beth Rigby where timings are fully explained?

MayBee70 Wed 03-Sept-25 16:54:58

Can’t have too many threads bad mouthing her, can we…

PaynesGrey Wed 03-Sept-25 16:54:41

Why don't you read her statement?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 03-Sept-25 16:42:58

Some people are says setting up a Trust can be a minefield. I’m sure it can be. However that’s not the point in my opinion.

Angela Rayner consulted a supposedly top firm for advice.

I would be very interested to know the timing of the setting up of the Trust on the other house and her allegedly transferring her 25% interest in it into the Trust. If that happened just before she bought the flat, it smacks of deliberate tax evasion. Which is illegal.

It depends how much detail was given to her advisers I suppose. I wonder how they feel about their reputation being tarnished in this way? Certainly not good PR for them regarding clients.

Let’s hope we are all given full transparency on the matter soon as until then this debacle won’t go away.

Primrose53 Wed 03-Sept-25 13:14:20

FGT this is already being discussed on the other AR thread. I did wonder about starting a new thread but decided not.

Greendress Wed 03-Sept-25 13:12:39

Crocodile Tears . If the Deputy PM cannot get sound legal advice, God help us all if she eventually gets the top job.

MrsQuigley Wed 03-Sept-25 13:12:13

I very much hope not. Even with ‘poor legal advice’ a tax underpayment of around £40000 is rather noticeable. Have heard her mentioned as a successor to Kier Starmer and her political views are so far left they are off the page.

Spinnaker Wed 03-Sept-25 13:08:22

I hope not

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 03-Sept-25 13:06:43

Admits she didn’t pay enough tax. She cried this morning, on a SKY interview. Said she’d received poor legal advice, didn’t pay enough stamp duty on her new home in Hove and has referred herself to the Ethics Committee. Starmer still supports her.

Will she survive this debacle do we think?