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Angela Rayner

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 03-Sept-25 13:06:43

Admits she didn’t pay enough tax. She cried this morning, on a SKY interview. Said she’d received poor legal advice, didn’t pay enough stamp duty on her new home in Hove and has referred herself to the Ethics Committee. Starmer still supports her.

Will she survive this debacle do we think?

Crossstitchfan Sat 06-Sept-25 14:19:46

I agree, westendgirl. One thing I hate about Gransnet is how, when someone is criticised for something or other, some Gransnetters leap on the chance to ridicule, despise and otherwise act ‘holier than thou’ regarding the person concerned.
Make a comment about somebody, yes. Criticise somebody, yes to that too. I must admit to being guilty of that. But is it necessary to go on and on about it? Think of the person involved - whatever they have done, they probably feel pretty bad once they read the first few posts that criticise them. That’s ok - the posters probably want them to feel that way. But to go on and on about the same thing borders on cruelty and we shouldn’t stoop that low. Everybody is human. Everybody makes mistakes.
If I happened to be famous, I would be terrified of doing much at all knowing there’s a bunch of baying hounds waiting to tear me to threads.
Have a little compassion and common sense, people.

westendgirl Sat 06-Sept-25 14:04:22

Angela Rayner has resigned.Now please leave her and her family alone. Enough of the nasty snide comments, surely?

MayBee70 Sat 06-Sept-25 13:51:47

Visgir1

I'm expecting to see her soon on "I'm a Celebrity".
She's finnished as credible MP.

I don’t think I can remember so much venom aimed at an MP before sad. Do you honestly think she would lower herself to Farages level and appear on IACGMOOH?

Visgir1 Sat 06-Sept-25 13:22:07

I'm expecting to see her soon on "I'm a Celebrity".
She's finnished as credible MP.

Blinko Sat 06-Sept-25 12:27:37

winterwhite

Whatever else is learned from this it’s clear that our tax regulations need to be simplified.
Angela Rayner is not foolish. It seems pretty clear that she acted in good faith and I hope she survives all this. petty spite.

Agree. I sincerely hope she'll be back in some capacity and soon. Her grit and authenticity will be missed.

icanhandthemback Sat 06-Sept-25 12:14:02

eazybee

If she is considering returning to high level politics, although I sincerely hope she won't, she should use all the extra time she has on her hands now to enrol in Ruskin College and start a programme of education, as John Prescott and many other Labour MPs have done.
She still has her job and an extremely good income. I feel more pity for the excellent MPs of all parties who lost their jobs because of the false promises Labour made.
Sickened by the unwarranted adulation heaped on Rayner.

I think Tax Planning is quite a long course, eazybee. 😉

eazybee Sat 06-Sept-25 12:05:31

If she is considering returning to high level politics, although I sincerely hope she won't, she should use all the extra time she has on her hands now to enrol in Ruskin College and start a programme of education, as John Prescott and many other Labour MPs have done.
She still has her job and an extremely good income. I feel more pity for the excellent MPs of all parties who lost their jobs because of the false promises Labour made.
Sickened by the unwarranted adulation heaped on Rayner.

Mollygo Sat 06-Sept-25 11:31:45

Allira

Yes, of course she will!

They usually bounce back when the furore dies down.

She has such a glowing endorsement from KS, that I don’t expect it to be too long either.

TerriBull Sat 06-Sept-25 11:30:22

I did see a picture of Angela Rayner on the beach with a group of people, one looked very much like a teenage boy., which could have well been one of the sons. I imagine like most separated couples the children shuttle between both parents. These situations are personal and not always easy, but aside from the debacle over her housing situation, I'm sure she takes her parental responsibilities as seriously as the next person.

Doodledog Sat 06-Sept-25 11:16:31

Aveline

Maybe she'll be gradually back over time? I hope so anyway.

I hope so too.

Allira Sat 06-Sept-25 10:41:44

Yes, of course she will!

They usually bounce back when the furore dies down.

Aveline Sat 06-Sept-25 10:28:06

Maybe she'll be gradually back over time? I hope so anyway.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 06-Sept-25 10:01:14

If it were me I’d want to sell that flat in Hove. ‘Unlucky’ doesn’t even cover it.

I’d be thinking “when I got the keys I was Deputy Prime Minister, now look at it all”.

No thanks. Too many awful memories of a time I’d rather forget.

LizzieDrip Sat 06-Sept-25 09:59:00

Nandalot

She should have done as Farage did. He said he had bought the house in his constituency but actually used his partner to buy the house in Clacton so less stamp duty to be paid.

Yes she should!

Nandalot Sat 06-Sept-25 09:54:20

She should have done as Farage did. He said he had bought the house in his constituency but actually used his partner to buy the house in Clacton so less stamp duty to be paid.

icanhandthemback Sat 06-Sept-25 09:47:38

Primrose53

MayBee70

“I know the ages of her kids by the way”…
so why make it sound as if she was neglecting them in some way hmm?

I never said she neglected them. I queried why she did not have the kids with her at the seaside.

Maybe it wasn't her access weekend. Maybe her kids were doing other things and didn't want to be with their mother at the seaside. The fact that they weren't there doesn't mean that, in part, she resigned to stop the press intruding on their family life. The Trust details were to do with that. She had already admitted her mistake about the tax in her resignation letter.

Iam64 Sat 06-Sept-25 09:11:27

Why would she ‘have her kids with her at the sea side’

Primrose53 Fri 05-Sept-25 22:09:09

MayBee70

“I know the ages of her kids by the way”…
so why make it sound as if she was neglecting them in some way hmm?

I never said she neglected them. I queried why she did not have the kids with her at the seaside.

MayBee70 Fri 05-Sept-25 21:58:24

“I know the ages of her kids by the way”…
so why make it sound as if she was neglecting them in some way hmm?

Primrose53 Fri 05-Sept-25 21:49:27

icanhandthemback

As Angela and her ex husband share time with the children, maybe it was her weekend off and her husband was exercising his access to their children. If she chose to go to the beach and enjoy herself, good for her. As for buying a home away from the kids, she bought a house close to her work. She probably knew she wouldn't have a grace and favour home forever. Criticise the woman for not taking further tax advice but why pull her up on her role as a mother.

Because she says that was the main reason she resigned! Trying to cover up the fact that she broke the ministerial code and messed up big time.

I know the ages of her kids by the way.

icanhandthemback Fri 05-Sept-25 21:00:34

Iam64

icanhandthemback, we have to accept it’s Open Season on Angela Raynor. I hope she’s ok

Me too.

Iam64 Fri 05-Sept-25 20:42:10

icanhandthemback, we have to accept it’s Open Season on Angela Raynor. I hope she’s ok

icanhandthemback Fri 05-Sept-25 20:27:07

As Angela and her ex husband share time with the children, maybe it was her weekend off and her husband was exercising his access to their children. If she chose to go to the beach and enjoy herself, good for her. As for buying a home away from the kids, she bought a house close to her work. She probably knew she wouldn't have a grace and favour home forever. Criticise the woman for not taking further tax advice but why pull her up on her role as a mother.

Iam64 Fri 05-Sept-25 19:29:14

The stress she and her family have been under has been immense. I wonder if she will be able to afford the flat in Hove given her drop in salary,

Iam64 Fri 05-Sept-25 18:56:08

Primrose, Angela raynor’s children are aged 16, 17, 27 . Its possible they weren’t being neglected when when mum was “lounging around on the beach last week”