Can Starmer survive? The wolves are circling in the Labour Party.

Does that apply to other issues or just ID cards. So Denmark have what is considered by some as harsh rules in terms of immigration, asylum seekers, etc - should we do that, after all Denmark seems to be doing OK.

I think you will have to address that to Mollygo, Galaxy, as she originally questioned. The party is going to introduce ID cards. Are all LP supporters on GN posting enthusiastic backing for the scheme? I was just highlighting that many social democracies seem happy with them.

Vote for one particular bill or for one particular personality and you are likely/bound to be disappointed. Democracy is not just about the individual. It is about the many and where they agee on the overall direction of travel. It cannot be about the individual and each person's separate views - as some would want you to believe and then want you to tear one another apart when they a) dont agree and b) often misunderstand what they are being offered.

I haven't torn anyone apart, I have asked whether the 'but it happens everywhere else and they seem ok' applies to other issues. I guess not.

Love tie!
* DaisyAnneReturns*

I'm not a Labour Party "supporter" Mollygo but neither do I see our country, under Labour, as "socialist" country which I think is were your "horror" comes from. Are you really comparing it to what, say Cuba, Vietnam, China, etc., would do?

Good grief, such an unwarranted accusation and untruthful implications are exactly what I’d expect from you DAR, having read some of your responses to posters on this and other threads.

Where have I said any such thing?
Where have I expressed the “horror” that you untruthfully attribute to me?

If I wasn’t enjoying leaving your lies for all to see, I’d have reported your post, but much better to leave inaccurate and untruthful posts such as yours for all to see. 🤣🤣🤣

Where have I said any such thing?

You didn't Mollygo. You gave no reason why you asked the question and I did point out it was supposition on my part.

All you needed to do was explain that wasn't the reason and tell us why you had asked the question; you can do that now. Why do you believe all Labour Party supporters should support equally each and every bill that the Labour Part brings forward?

It’s OK DAR
Yet another declaration by you of what you say I believe.
Just carry on. Your posts are there for my entertainment and so that others can view your fantasies about what I or others think. 🤣🤣🤣

You describe my supposition based on what many people say as a declaration by me of what I say you believe Mollygo. I really don't know you well enough to do that and replied to your post, not to you personally.

You could easily have apologised for not making your reasoning clear and corrected my supposition. We are talking equal to equal after all. Or don't you believe that to be the case?

Galaxy

I haven't torn anyone apart, I have asked whether the 'but it happens everywhere else and they seem ok' applies to other issues. I guess not.

😁 you’re not one of the wolves that’s circling the LP are you?

DaisyAnneReturns

You describe my supposition based on what many people say as a declaration by me of what I say you believe Mollygo. I really don't know you well enough to do that and replied to your post, not to you personally.

You could easily have apologised for not making your reasoning clear and corrected my supposition. We are talking equal to equal after all. Or don't you believe that to be the case?

🤣🤣🤣
Deciding what you think I believe again? Oh dear. But do keep on DAR.

I changed schools a lot when I was young and am reminded of the always occurring small group waiting for the new pupils. They noticeably never seemed to realise that no-one ever took their personal sense of power seriously. They might try to trip someone up, etc., or make a hit pretending a ball had gone astray, but they couldn't have a real conversation or a real friendship.

It's amazing how grandsnet can remind you of what no longer matters.

But you're not a new 'pupil', DaisyAnneReturns.

Exactly.

🤔

DAR
They noticeably never seemed to realise that no-one ever took their personal sense of power seriously. They might try to trip someone up, etc., or make a hit pretending a ball had gone astray, but they couldn't have a real conversation or a real friendship.
Just how you appear to me, DAR. I find it impossible to hold a conversation with someone who translates anything I say into what they wanted me to have said.
Even to the extent of dragging in Cuba China . . .
Glad I don’t need grandsnet to remind me what no longer matters, but I’m happy that it’s helpful to you.

Allira

But you're not a new 'pupil', DaisyAnneReturns.

I think you’re right. I seem to remember . . .

Allira

🤔

I grew up.

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