Donald Trump State visit 16-18 September 2025

Trump's visit is bound to generate the carbon footprint of carbon footprints: Air Force One private plane, the President's bomb-proof limousine aka The Big Beast, all the limousines for his and Melania's endless entourage (Vance's recent jolly holiday in the Cotswolds required no less than 19 vehicles wherever he went, so it's said), and then all the transport required for his regiment of security.

And you can bet your life than when he gets back to the US he'll waste no time bad-mouthing the UK, because back-stabbing is Donald Trump's trademark 'talent'.

It seems to be a national pastime to bad mouth Trump so wait and see what his take on the UK is? It might be more accurate than we would like?

Odious little man

Describes Trump perfectly

6 ft 3 inches perfect height?

Despite absolute loathing for Trump and not being a Royalist I am hoping the visit is a wonderful example of how impressive we can be at putting on a state occasion. Basically we're "playing" Trump so let's do it well. There's absolutely no mileage in hosting this vile man unless as a country we get something out of it.
I think we have to be grown up about Trump and his ability to harm this country so as we're no longer the rich powerful country we were, we hold our nose and use diplomacy.
His visit will be carefully planned to give bim pomp behind closed doors! No one wants crowds lining the streets with jeers instead of flags! Two days of creeping round the creep with crocodile smiles. Pity about Mandelson, a man made for the job IMO but sadly very flawed, he could have shared gossip with Trump about the good old days!

ronib

6 ft 3 inches perfect height?

And around 16 stone, I believe so I don't think little is an accurate description of Trump!
😁

foxie48 Spot on!

The government and the royal family are playing the long game to safeguard our interests trade and defence wise. Short term cost for long term gain. They have no choice.

It is sickening - he is a ghastly human being - but that is what diplomacy at a national level is about. People swallow their nausea and get on with it for the sake of the country. I am just glad it is not me having to do this.

He's best ignored I think.

May I I just ask - why is little considered to vote an appropriate adjective when one wants to insult someone?

I remember Angela Rayner calling Rishi Sunak a pint-sized loser. He is 5' 7" so slightly less than average for a man but what makes an average? Sadiq Khan is less than average but so what?

Using it as an insult for Trump is just ridiculous.

For the many smaller than average people, it is insulting.

Mike Pompeo ex CIA director isn’t sparing our blushes over the Chagos deal and the building of a new super sized state of the art Chinese embassy here.
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Allira

May I I just ask - why is little considered to vote an appropriate adjective when one wants to insult someone?

I remember Angela Rayner calling Rishi Sunak a pint-sized loser. He is 5' 7" so slightly less than average for a man but what makes an average? Sadiq Khan is less than average but so what?

Using it as an insult for Trump is just ridiculous.

For the many smaller than average people, it is insulting.

Using the word little is a put down but not very apt for a tall man like Trump 😄
It’s all diplomatic isn’t it, he gets something out of it and we get something out of it. Think of the people the late Queen had to glad hand in the past.

I think 'little' was originally a reference to Sadiq Khan (5'5") on this thread. It can also be used to describe someone of limited intelligence as in 'a bear of very little brain' or some such.

As a person of short stature (5'2" and shrinking) I have no problem with being called little.

I agree Oreo. As I mentioned further up the thread QEII had to put up with visits from some very dubious characters in the name of diplomacy including Trump.

Agree with foxie, Grandmabatty and Old Frill.

Trump is so wrapped up in himself I doubt he will even notice any protests.

The royal family dont get a say in who comes and who does not. They have to do what the government tells them.

I imagine the King has got the measure of Trump, he will do as his mother did and just be civil.
Perhaps he will feign fatigue due to his recent cancer treatment and nip off early to sit and watch the telly with his feet up.
Of course Camilla can cope, a game girl, all she needs is a high heeled shoe apparently.

think we are missing the point and getting caught up in the people involved.

This is not the Charles and Donald show.

This is Britain showing the world that it honours the USA and the USA showing they are honoured.

Camilla has pulled out of the Duchess of Kent’s funeral this afternoon as she is unwell.

My concern about the visit is a hope that Trump’s health will hold up, it would not be good if he had further issues whilst he is in the UK, and there are lots of reports about him having had an episode last week.

ronib, we do not customarily shoot our visitors.
Why would you think Mr Trump would be at risk of being shot in Britain?
I think that, from what we have heard of him, he prefers attention rather than empty streets.

With all due respect FGT2 I think it is you who is missing the point.

International diplomacy works in such a way that the presidents of various countries are invited to make state visits and to meet the royals.

Over the years representatives of countries with disgusting regimes have been received and it is not an indication of approval or disapproval by government or royalty when these people are invited to pay a visit.

Apparently there is the 'biggest photo in the world' of Trump and Epstein, funded by donations from all over Britain, being unfurled across a field near Windsor. It is being shown on Facebook pages in the USA.

Chocolatelovinggran I don’t think the threat comes from a British person but it’s perfectly possible to board a plane to take aim over here. I guess it might be a challenge getting weapons through Heathrow?

Magenta8

I think 'little' was originally a reference to Sadiq Khan (5'5") on this thread. It can also be used to describe someone of limited intelligence as in 'a bear of very little brain' or some such.

As a person of short stature (5'2" and shrinking) I have no problem with being called little.

I agree Oreo. As I mentioned further up the thread QEII had to put up with visits from some very dubious characters in the name of diplomacy including Trump.

Thank you Magenta8. I posted that Sadiq Khan was an odious little man - he is little (shorter than average) and extremely odious. So a perfect description of him

Stoneofdestiny took this phrase and used it for President Trump which obviously does not apply to him being over 6ft.

Maremia

Apparently there is the 'biggest photo in the world' of Trump and Epstein, funded by donations from all over Britain, being unfurled across a field near Windsor. It is being shown on Facebook pages in the USA.

Ridiculous!!! Aren't we better than that?? Regardless of whether we like the man or not he is the President of the Inited States and has been invited to this country.

United - fingers not working properly

Luckygirl3

The government and the royal family are playing the long game to safeguard our interests trade and defence wise. Short term cost for long term gain. They have no choice.

It is sickening - he is a ghastly human being - but that is what diplomacy at a national level is about. People swallow their nausea and get on with it for the sake of the country. I am just glad it is not me having to do this.

He's best ignored I think.

I doubt anyone wants to swan around "keeping enemies close" however it seems the King wants to appease him, so he will.

I've a slim, short husband - quite little. Really, I don't believe this is the "little" referenced when people speak of POTUS as little.

Luckygirl3

The government and the royal family are playing the long game to safeguard our interests trade and defence wise. Short term cost for long term gain. They have no choice.

It is sickening - he is a ghastly human being - but that is what diplomacy at a national level is about. People swallow their nausea and get on with it for the sake of the country. I am just glad it is not me having to do this.

He's best ignored I think.

Spot on.