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Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Sept-25 10:16:17

4 of the 5 conditions are fulfilled.

UN report.

Maremia Sat 04-Oct-25 15:47:21

Once, if, the Gaza situation is resolved, which I believe to be the wish of all on this thread, although I can't speak for the Shadows, only those who post, in a way that satisfies the Palestinian people of all faiths, yes, the Christians as well, then there will be no need to march for justice for Gaza, as that will have been achieved.

Wyllow3 Sat 04-Oct-25 15:44:17

try this
www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/csection-on-a-beheaded-lady-aussie-doctors-describe-horror-conditions-at-gaza-hospital/news-story/fef9379380c233530524fe331aa5d521

Wyllow3 Sat 04-Oct-25 15:43:28

The protest marches will continue as long as the appalling bombing and starvation continues.

I shall never forget in the new 2 weeks ago a doctor from Australia reporting that the IDf were getting closer.

He had just given a caesarean to a woman whose head had been blown off.
the baby was born alive.

You think thats OK?

As long as this is happening appropriately gauged protsts should continue.

Check it out
www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=gaza+baby+delivered+mothers+head+blown+ofgf&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:1fe6340a,vid:3CpY6VgY6lU,st:0

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 04-Oct-25 14:44:47

If Gaza is rebuilt and peace and prosperity ensue perhaps the protest marches will stop too. We can but hope.

Maremia Sat 04-Oct-25 13:58:40

Will Hamas give up control? We'll soon see.
Has Israel stopped the bombing? Actually, no it hasn't.

Anniebach Sat 04-Oct-25 10:08:16

Hamas give up their control ? no

Maremia Sat 04-Oct-25 10:02:02

But how to persuade Hamas to give up?
When will the bombing stop, and the food go in?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Oct-25 09:36:36

No firm news - but both Egypt and Qatar are putting pressure on Hamas.

Once agreed Hamas will no longer be an agent in the future of Palestine.

Israel has had nearly all its requirements met.

There is to be a 3-4 phase withdrawal of the IDF, and the interim authority alongside an independent army/law keeper will take control.

Maremia Sat 04-Oct-25 09:34:31

Yes, far too many innocent children, on both and every side, have been caught up in this disgraceful conflict.
Every child's pain and parents' anguish should be acknowledged.

ronib Sat 04-Oct-25 09:27:50

What monsters could have killed Shiri Bibis and Kfir and Ariel?

Anniebach Sat 04-Oct-25 09:10:06

Footage of a terrified Shiri Bibas clutching her two sons — 9-month-old Kfir and 4-year-old Ariel — as they were taken to Gaza by militants is seared into the country’s collective memory.

Wyllow3 Sat 04-Oct-25 08:47:43

its the image of the Mother and baby, but perhaps that empty square speaks more loudly.

Gone, erased.

Wyllow3 Sat 04-Oct-25 08:42:28

Is that supposed to excuse anything?

Never ever forget. Let's keep aware of whats happening and keep this thread alive and watchful.

Anniebach Sat 04-Oct-25 08:10:04

All wars are brutal

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Oct-25 08:05:36

I must do some reading, I haven’t been looking at the news (a break from all the sadness).

Nothing at the ending of a brutal war is ever ideal, but small steps………..

The most important thing is AID!

Children’s lives will be saved.

foxie48 Sat 04-Oct-25 08:04:26

A glimmer of light in a very dark corner of the world. I hope the end is in sight but there's still a long way to go.

Wyllow3 Sat 04-Oct-25 07:55:46

Well, the details of the Trump Peace plan are out. Live news feed on the BBC to keep up with events

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn0xvnxqj2xt

First, the current situation summary see 07.22 on the timeline

"Hamas was under a lot of pressure to accept at least some points of President Trump’s deal for Gaza. With its “yes, but” response, this is exactly what they have done.

They have agreed to release all the remaining Israeli hostages, both living and dead, and that Gaza will be governed by technocrats.
But the group’s statement doesn’t mention its disarmament, which has been a major Israeli demand, or the exile of its members.
The response came after the start of the Jewish weekend, so reaction in Israel has, so far, been limited.

The office of the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, said the country was preparing for the immediate release of all the hostages. And reports suggest the army has been ordered to reduce offensive operations.

In Gaza, many are expressing hope that these dramatic developments could finally pave the way for the war to end

The actual peace plan : see 7.02 on the timeline:

"On Monday, the White House published a map, external showing the various lines of Israeli troop withdrawal, should Donald Trump’s peace plan go ahead.

Although the map appears to be somewhat approximate - for example, Gaza's southern border with Egypt is not actually as straight as pictured - it gives us an idea of what this peace plan would mean for the Palestinian territory.
If the peace plan followed the boundaries shown on the White House map, the military’s initial withdrawal would leave Gaza about 55% occupied.

The second withdrawal would leave it about 40% occupied.
And the final phase of the withdrawal, which would create a “security buffer zone“, would leave about 15% of Gaza occupied by the Israeli military."

BUT
Israel is still bombing Gaza.
People are still suffering as before, food, water, pushed around from pillar to post.

My personal opinion is that this is not an ideal settlement but if it stops the war for now and humanitarian aid can reach Gaza and the hospitals can work without fear of being bombed, its a stop in the right direction

AGAA4 Mon 29-Sept-25 18:36:40

Netanyahu has had to.apologise to Qatar for the bombing.
Trump is confident there will be a peace deal.

AGAA4 Mon 29-Sept-25 10:24:11

Netanyahu meeting Trump today. Just hope he doesn't change Trump's mind about the plan for peace.

lixy Mon 29-Sept-25 09:22:23

Yes, feeling hopeful here too. 🕊️

Though I have misgivings about it feeling rather ‘colonial’.

Babs03 Mon 29-Sept-25 08:45:15

AGAA4

International community day they are on the brink of a peace deal for Gaza. 🙏

Here’s hoping 🤞

AGAA4 Mon 29-Sept-25 08:20:47

Say*

AGAA4 Mon 29-Sept-25 08:20:25

International community day they are on the brink of a peace deal for Gaza. 🙏

Wyllow3 Mon 29-Sept-25 07:59:54

Thank you Babs03. Good idea.
Its a distance I can come if someone takes me

Babs03 Mon 29-Sept-25 07:50:54

Wyllow3

Please come to this demonstration on Wednesday October 8th. It's not far from the A1, details on the handout. anyone intending to come are welcome to PM me/ask for more details.

Its at the firm which helps to supply arms to Israel

Be there is you can, I'm just waiting on news for a lift to get there.

Thanks for that info Wyllow, sadly we can’t make it to things like this anymore due to DH needing care, but we have passed the details on to our family who am sure will want to be there.