Duchess of York removed as Patron by 5 children’s charities.

Reading ‘Entitled’ , I was never comfortable with her desire for tv interviews and I really dislike her ‘what the Queen said to me before she died’, Harry jus5 had to tell the world what he said to the late Queen when he went to pay respect to her body,
total lack of respect

Maybe though they’re just ‘oversharers’?
I am a bit.
Fortunately in my case, I don’t run to the media only because I know no-one would be remotely interested

Quote FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 22-Sept-25 20:37:04
Maybe though they’re just ‘oversharers’?
I am a bit.
Fortunately in my case, I don’t run to the media only because I know no-one would be remotely interested

Oversharing ? , as does Burrell ? yuck

Wikipedia on the Duchess of York outlines her overspending ( £ 42 million in the 1990s) and disastrous financial decisions. She and Prince Andrew seem to wheel and deal with dodgy people. I doubt the public will have any sympathy for either of them now.

valdavi

Smileless2012

Makes sense; who would want someone considered a convicted paedophile was a friend to be involved with a children's charity or any charity.

I don't think he was a convicted paedophile when she addressed him as friend, & I'm pretty sure he didn't go round saying to social acquaintances "you know, I'm likely to go down to posterity as a convicted paedophile, so if you want to distance yourself from me, go ahead..."
Not a Fergie fan, but it makes me exceedingly cross.
Judge people by what they say, what they do, and even, with reservations. by the company they currently keep - but not who was on their friends list decades ago.
It's different for the men, because there's always the possibility they participated in the abuse.

Epstein was convicted in 2008 of soliciting girls as young as 14. Duchess of York's contact with him that is being discussed was in 2011 (after she had very publicly supposedly distanced herself from him).
It's ridiculous to say that only men participate in abuse, Maxwell was also sentenced.

Yes Freudian slip ferry

She's a total embarrassment to the Royal Family. Always got her hand held out for money and no scruples where she gets it from.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Epstein and Ghislaine were invited to Beatrice's 18th Birthday Party.

I’m glad the late Queen isn’t around to witness all this.

Yet another headache for King Charles.

Just another nasty, grabbing, entitled wannabe. So suited to her ex.

ferry23

If just a fraction of what is written in "Entitled" is true, Eugenie and Beatrice are not so white as white. Gifts of expensive jewellery, parties and even weddings paid for via Middle East connections. But look at their role models.

A lot of things that have happened in the past decade or so (including the current Mandelson scandal) start to make a lot more sense when you read the book. A lot of dots begin to join up and they don't paint a pretty picture for any of the Yorks.

Yes, Beatrice and Eugenie benefitted quite a bit from Mummy and Daddy’s dubious associates, according to ‘Entitled’.

But Fergie has to be kept onside, as she knows where all the bodies are buried.

She wasn’t kept onside from 1992 until after 2022

I think both their daughters know what their parents are like. Although I was a fan of the late Queen I now think her judgement and treatment of her family flawed.

I used to feel sorry for her but of course we didn’t know the half of it. No wonder Prince Philip insisted she stay beyond arm’s length.she was like a ticking time bomb.

I think the best thing Andrew and Fergie could do would be to pack their bags and disappear into the sunset to exile in some distant land, never to be seen again!

It is her excuse that I find strange, why didn't she stand up to him?

email to Epstein, describing him as a friend, was written to counter a threat from him to sue her for defamation

How many of us would like to be castigated for emails we sent 2 decades ago? Seems a bit overkill to me. She is not the sharpest tool in the box (hoaxed by the fake sheik) but I dont think she is evil.

The email that has come to light was sent by SF after Epstein's conviction valdavi so she is being judged on what she said, what she did and the company she was keeping at the time; 'company' with a convicted paedophile.

friendlygingercat

How many of us would like to be castigated for emails we sent 2 decades ago? Seems a bit overkill to me. She is not the sharpest tool in the box (hoaxed by the fake sheik) but I dont think she is evil.

I don't think impropriety on this scale has a time limit on it. It's no different to an inciminating written letter.

Electronic communications are just as legally binding as any other form of communication. You can't excuse someone just because the deed was some time ago.

She may not be evil, but she does appear to be manipulative and scheming and quite happy to live in debt not only to her myriad of wealthy and often dubious contacts, but more importantly, to the British tax payer.

Tizliz

It is her excuse that I find strange, why didn't she stand up to him?

*email to Epstein, describing him as a friend, was written to counter a threat from him to sue her for defamation*

She couldn't have afforded to stand up to him. It probably all comes down to money - he'd given/lent her money previously, maybe he called in the debt. We only have her side.

Jeremy Vine, a guest on now speaking , Fergie is devastated, she wrote the email to protect her family

Surely this will not be believed

I think in her case as with Prince Andrew it does indeed always come down to money Her extravagances would make Marie Antoinette look parsimonious.
I am the last person to find excuses for Prince Andrew but you might argue that he had been surrounded by fawning courtiers and a mother who indulged him all his life. Sarah Ferguson on the other hand had a pretty average (if upper) middle class Home Counties upbringing.

They both seem to have dug a hole so deep that there's no clambering out of it now.

"Oh what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive".

Recently she said the late Queen speaks to her through the dogs !

ferry23

They both seem to have dug a hole so deep that there's no clambering out of it now.

"Oh what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive".

ferry23 That took me back. My Granny would often say this. I haven't heard it in years.