Duchess of York removed as Patron by 5 children’s charities.

So you think women can’t be involved in abuse?

It seems Epstein was convicted of violating state laws against soliciting prostitution and soliciting a minor for prostitution, rather than having sex with a minor himself. That was in 2008.
www.britannica.com/biography/Jeffrey-Epstein

In 2005 he was accused of molesting a 14-year-old girl, and subsequently of sexually abusing about 40 other people. I would be surprised if he didn’t actually commit any of those crimes. He was never brought to court for them.

The Duchess of York wrote the email calling him a supreme friend in 2011. I suppose she may have thought he hadn’t actually abused children himself. Personally I wouldn’t want to be friends with someone who had provided young girls for someone else to have sex with.

In 2018 he was arrested on charges of sex trafficking, but died before he could stand trial.

I don’t really see why SF was worried about Jeffrey Epstein bringing charges of defamation against her. Surely she would have won? Or did she think she didn’t have the money to pay lawyers? Or was there maybe information she didn’t want to be revealed in court?

Never liked her, never thought she was 'a breath of fresh air'. Don't understand why she's still hanging around the RF tbh

She's rather like Harry in that she thinks she can get away with all sorts of hurtful things and she will still be welcomed back into the Royal Family.

I am no royalist, but I do admire Kate and William for their dignity.

I can’t stand either of them. Also approx 10% of all paedophiles are female

2 photographs online, Sarah hugging Epstein’s housekeeper, another with a man perhaps housekeeper husband

Oreo

Sadgrandma

I think the best thing Andrew and Fergie could do would be to pack their bags and disappear into the sunset to exile in some distant land, never to be seen again!

Like Harry and Meghan, tho he seems not to be able to stay away for long.

Quite. The grass isn't always greener.

I think we should form a GN squad to rescue the corgis. Imagine being lumbered with those 2. Like poor Larry in Downing Street.

She's always been a money grubbing grifter

Skye17 you say you’d be surprised if JE was guilty of any of the 2005 charges as he was not brought to court for them.
I’ll just leave one name here, that represents so many sex offenders who don’t face a criminal trial
Jimmy Saville

Smileless2012

Makes sense; who would want someone considered a convicted paedophile was a friend to be involved with a children's charity or any charity.

Epstein gave her money "to settle a debt".

Epstein paid Virginia Guiffre $500,000 to settle her hash.

Missiseff

Never liked her, never thought she was 'a breath of fresh air'. Don't understand why she's still hanging around the RF tbh

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valdavi

Smileless2012

Makes sense; who would want someone considered a convicted paedophile was a friend to be involved with a children's charity or any charity.

I don't think he was a convicted paedophile when she addressed him as friend, & I'm pretty sure he didn't go round saying to social acquaintances "you know, I'm likely to go down to posterity as a convicted paedophile, so if you want to distance yourself from me, go ahead..."
Not a Fergie fan, but it makes me exceedingly cross.
Judge people by what they say, what they do, and even, with reservations. by the company they currently keep - but not who was on their friends list decades ago.
It's different for the men, because there's always the possibility they participated in the abuse.

According to the news, she wrote her apologising email to him after his downfall was all made public assuring him he would always be her lifelong friend or something similar.

This made me laugh.

merlotgran 😁

butterandjam

Smileless2012

Makes sense; who would want someone considered a convicted paedophile was a friend to be involved with a children's charity or any charity.

Epstein gave her money "to settle a debt".

Epstein paid Virginia Guiffre $500,000 to settle her hash.

Virginia Guiffre was a victim of Epstein, Maxwell and others.

Are you saying the Duchess of York was a victim too, but on lesser scale?

I don't understand what your meaning is.

6 years between Epstein and Sarah

I wonder if there will be a statement from the Publishers of 'Budgie' stating that they did not advise Sarah Ferguson to write a letter of apology to Epstein?

What a mess, another one full of people who didn’t seem able to accept normal social norms and criminal behaviour applied to them as well as lower beings

Question 1 What did she spend all her money on to get into such debt ?

Question 2 How will she and Andrew pay for their reduced lifestyle now ?

Statement The late Queen paid off her mother’s debts. 😳

The Queen Mother was rather profligate too but on a much smaller scale.
She wasn't greedy.

These people are members of a mutual admiration society, minor royalty, mega rich and actors/influencers. They want to be seen with each other. It makes them feel important. Only when one of them is shown to have size twelve feet of clay does panic set in...

Right from the very start, every possible negative photo was syndicated by the press. I am sure that Diana showed a bit of leg getting out of a car every now and then, had the wind catch her clothes, but we never saw these, but we did of Sarah. Every time she put on a lb or 2, and her dress was a little tight, there was the press comment. She did not get any of the support that Diana did. The pattern repeated with Megan (not that I like HER one bit, but we do seem to love the heir and denigrate the spare).
She was part of a social set that included him - what he did was not her fault, was not in her ken.

FranP I agree about the unflattering photos. The paparazzi just hold down the shutter and review what they've got to find the shot that they can sell for the biggest fee. I'm sure they rub their hands with glee when they find one that puts the celeb in a controversial position e.g. laughing inappropriately at a funeral... and the media love those, the more embarrassing the better.

However, a lot of those same famous faces will now be wondering when photos or emails will appear to connect them with Epstein and calling him their steadfast friend after he was convicted of procuring a child for prostitution.

I agree the press enjoyed humiliating Ferguson, that wasn’t confined to her, it’s any woman, including Diana

No one made her behave so badly though, she achieved that single handed. I remember my mum being horrified when she was photographed having her toes sucked by her current boyfriend, with her two infant daughters present