Duchess of York removed as Patron by 5 children’s charities.

Skye17 you say you’d be surprised if JE was guilty of any of the 2005 charges as he was not brought to court for them.
I’ll just leave one name here, that represents so many sex offenders who don’t face a criminal trial
Jimmy Saville

She's always been a money grubbing grifter

I think we should form a GN squad to rescue the corgis. Imagine being lumbered with those 2. Like poor Larry in Downing Street.

Oreo

Sadgrandma

I think the best thing Andrew and Fergie could do would be to pack their bags and disappear into the sunset to exile in some distant land, never to be seen again!

Like Harry and Meghan, tho he seems not to be able to stay away for long.

Quite. The grass isn't always greener.

2 photographs online, Sarah hugging Epstein’s housekeeper, another with a man perhaps housekeeper husband

I can’t stand either of them. Also approx 10% of all paedophiles are female

She's rather like Harry in that she thinks she can get away with all sorts of hurtful things and she will still be welcomed back into the Royal Family.

I am no royalist, but I do admire Kate and William for their dignity.

Never liked her, never thought she was 'a breath of fresh air'. Don't understand why she's still hanging around the RF tbh

It seems Epstein was convicted of violating state laws against soliciting prostitution and soliciting a minor for prostitution, rather than having sex with a minor himself. That was in 2008.
www.britannica.com/biography/Jeffrey-Epstein

In 2005 he was accused of molesting a 14-year-old girl, and subsequently of sexually abusing about 40 other people. I would be surprised if he didn’t actually commit any of those crimes. He was never brought to court for them.

The Duchess of York wrote the email calling him a supreme friend in 2011. I suppose she may have thought he hadn’t actually abused children himself. Personally I wouldn’t want to be friends with someone who had provided young girls for someone else to have sex with.

In 2018 he was arrested on charges of sex trafficking, but died before he could stand trial.

I don’t really see why SF was worried about Jeffrey Epstein bringing charges of defamation against her. Surely she would have won? Or did she think she didn’t have the money to pay lawyers? Or was there maybe information she didn’t want to be revealed in court?

So you think women can’t be involved in abuse?

Sadgrandma

I think the best thing Andrew and Fergie could do would be to pack their bags and disappear into the sunset to exile in some distant land, never to be seen again!

Like Harry and Meghan, tho he seems not to be able to stay away for long.

I think appropriate that SF’s association with children’s charities should be terminated in view of what has come to light but I don’t see the need for any further hand-wringing

I hope that the king does nothing unless it is shown that she or P Andrew were personally involved in illegal activity. P Andrew has paid a heavy price for his folly and now SF is doing the same. That’s enough it seems to me.

Were all the former friends of Jimmy Saville excoriated and driven out of their jobs btw.

Anniebach

Recently she said the late Queen speaks to her through the dogs !

She’s barking!

Can the King remove the title of Duchess?
It just sounds so wrong that this women is still going around with such a title, after being divorced from Andrew and not being born a Royal. At the moment she is of equal rank to the Duchess of Edinburgh, for example: surely that's unacceptable when she was such a close friend of Epstein?

We don’t need a royal family and their hangers on all hoping to get ‘a role’ to keep their lavish lifestyles going. She has been after money any way she could get it, just like Andrew, and Epstein was another ‘generous friend’. Great to know they live in a lavish property with security still funded by taxpayers.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

A 6th charity has now removed her.

I do feel sorry for Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie. Not just one - but both parents now. How tawdry.

I do feel sorry for them too, because they have to carry the weight of their parents being nob heads.
But they will survive.

Its funny, but I've always liked the woman. she never gave a crap about who did or who didn't like her. spent money even if it weren't hers, and still managed to come out smiling.
I would imagine all this is making her laugh and not bothered one iota.
its not like she was being paid, is it!

I am sure Epstien was a fab friend and wonderful host, and he had friends in many high and low places. It is a shame that he turned out to be what he was. and I am sure a lot of his friends were shocked to find out. Not all of them knew what he really was, so that has to be taken into consideration. Whether she knew? (shrugs shoulders) but its the painted with the brush scenario isnt it? Andrew knew, so she must have known? or did she!
we cant all know who our friends really are, until it comes out in the open.

The King is totally misguided in allowing his brother to be welcomed at family events that are in the public eye. It is akin to accepting the Duke's behaviour and is setting a terrible example to his citizens. If York was innocent why pay £10,000,000+ ( said to be the Queen's money) to his victim? It is shaming to his monarchy and although not a supporter of William, at least he is said to be keen to disassociate from the Yorks.

I was never the biggest fan of hers but I did used to have a certain admiration for how she had rebuilt her tattered reputation following her split from Andrew. Now it looks like she is back to square one.
There were sufficient public concerns about Epstein's conduct at the point she publicly denounced him all those years ago and pledged to cut all ties - why else would she have done so if not to salvage her own reputation. The problem is, it looks like she said one thing publicly and did the opposite in private, thinking she wouldn't get found out. Personally I don't buy all this stuff about her being intimidated by Epstein's aggressive threats of legal action for defamation as I can't see he would have had a leg to stand on in the light of allegations which had put him in the spotlight in the first place.
It looks for Sarah Ferguson like the chickens might have finally come home to roost

LovesBach

It seems Epstein cleared Sarah Ferguson's debts at one time in the past. Such associations are hard to shake off. What a tawdry business. I too feel sympathy for Beatrice and Eugenie; how mortifying to have both parents shown up badly in public.

They'll probably turn out the same.... Just give it time....

Poor King Charles, his son, his brother and cancer

Astitchintime

Can these two undesirables be exiled somewhere?

It will be interesting to see what King Charles does to mitigate the situation. I don’t see them going willingly.

Can these two undesirables be exiled somewhere?

eazybee

She just seems to lurch from debt crisis to crisis, and never seems to be able to control her money.
Oh dear.

eazybee
There’s only one thing wrong with this post her money
Unless she was a very wealthy woman when she married every penny she has spent has come from the public purse or ponsed off every despot lowlife she has come into contacted with.
Allegedly 😉

eazybee

I suppose that because abuse is regarded as sexual activity, whereas Ghislaine Maxwell procured them.
Someone is releasing this information: Mandelson, Prince Andrew, Sarah Ferguson, no doubt to divert attention from all the men named in Guiffre's deposition which she swore never to reveal.
No honour among thieves.

Maxwells is alleged by many girls to have participated in the sexual abuse they were subjected to

I agree with your comments about reason behind the drip feed release of information

A woman who loves the title Duchess and grovels to a man imprisoned for crimes against underage girlsattends the funeral of a Duchess who gave up all public duties to teach love of music to children