Farage hits back after Ed Davey warns against letting 'Trump's America' become 'Farage's Britain'

Nope, not anything. Starmer is not the absolute best, but neither is he the worst.

I don’t know who is best to run this country but anything is better than who we have now.

Our Reform county council are cutting public services . I’ve lost track of how many new Reform councillors are being investigated at the moment.

Headline news just now,
Reform Kent Council will raise taxes after cost cutting plans falter.

Farage has had right-wing ideas all his life and has over the years become a master manipulator.

He trades on fear and disappointments. He is a cosplayer, becoming one of whoever the current group of upset people are in the news, making them think he understands their situation and is one of them.

However, I think he actually sees it as A GAME.

He uses it all to make sure he is the centre of attention. If he can make more money out of anything so much the better. It's like an addiction; the more he's in the public eye, the better he feels. The more he can con people, the bigger the buzz.

He is a liar and a grifter. If he had to do any actual work, he'd find a reason to get out of it. He's a weak individual who doesn't give a damn about anyone else but himself. Yet he's such a convincing con artist, thousands believe he'll be good for the UK.

He's following the Trump agenda and look what's happening there.

StoneofDestiny

Farage never sets food in Clacton and has not improved the lives of people there. He isn’t interested at all. Why does anybody imagine he could run the country?

What on earth would bring anyone to think that Nigel Farage would be competent to hold the post of Prime Minister. For a start it’s a 24/7 job and I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t suit Mr Farage at all. He has no solutions to problems other than simplistic sound bites that you can overhear in any pub in the land.
Come on everyone , get serious, it’s an almost impossible job for the people dedicated to it, who want to improve things for the country, Farage’s one idea is chucking out foreigners who if you look around are your neighbours,work colleagues and family.

Bukkie

The asylum seekers are eating swans from the parks in Hull and fishing and eating the carp from the ponds.
Ed Davey is a complete buffoon with his stupid gimmicks and nonsense. Reform certainly isn't a one man party and virtually everyone I spoke to on a recent holiday had voted Reform in recent elections.

I agree with that. Speaking to a couple from London, moved right away as they have four sons, fed up with the stabbings.
Said KS the worst PM the country as ever had.
Another lady from Bournemouth, said it’s turned into a right shit hole, full of migrants- can’t walk the streets after tea.
Both are have voted reform.

Please, somebody list the actual sensible suggestions.

vintage1950

Didn't Farage say that asylum seekers were killing and eating swans? However would they manage that?

Well poaching has gone on for centuries. I was once attacked by a Swan! Not very friendly birds.

MaizieD

Oh, and this is the deputy leader of our council 🙄

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How many Labour and other council leaders under investigation. I would include Labour MPs also. ??

Oh, and this is the deputy leader of our council 🙄

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'Sensible suggestions of Reform?...' Now that's an oxymoron.

MaizieD

^My hope is that the sensible suggestions of Reform could actually be implemented if they do come to power.^

If you think that stopping a few benefits fraudsters is going to produce £150billions worth of savings, well good luck with that..

As a matter of interest, our local council went Reform in May. Remember that Farage said he was going to send in his DOGEs to cut council waste. Well, the Reform leader of the council recently admitted that there weren't, in fact, any significant savings to be made.

Sounds like you had a good local council!

My hope is that the sensible suggestions of Reform could actually be implemented if they do come to power.

If you think that stopping a few benefits fraudsters is going to produce £150billions worth of savings, well good luck with that..

As a matter of interest, our local council went Reform in May. Remember that Farage said he was going to send in his DOGEs to cut council waste. Well, the Reform leader of the council recently admitted that there weren't, in fact, any significant savings to be made.

MaizieD

^The funding would presumably come for the NHS from cutting wasteful public expenditure and the Blob etc.^

I'm not sure where you have been for the past 15 years, but since 2010 the tories have cut public expenditure year after year, calling it 'efficiency savings'. This is why the NHS is on its knees, why you can't get doctors appointments or find dentists willing to do NHS work. If you are raped or assaulted and a prosecution is planned it could take *years8 to come to trial. It's why we are short of police and why children's homes and care homes have been privatised because local councils can't afford to run them. It's why roads have pot holes (local councils can't afford the repairs) and why there is a shortage of teachers in state schools.

And you think that Reform is going to make £150+ billions worth of savings out of that lot?

Incidentally, 'the Blob' was, as I recall, a term used by Michael Gove when Education Minister for the 'education establishment' that didn't run state education to his satisfaction... It has since been extended to insult the whole civil service (that's the folk who actually keep the country running)

I have already apologised twice for posting the words ‘the blob’ I didnt realise it was intended as an insult, just thought it was used as shorthand for meaning the Civil Service.

I do feel that Reform can do what their name implies and cut wasteful public spending, which does go on. A quick google search will show how they intend to do this. They do support those in need to have benefits but there is a lot of abuse of this, including an article I have seen about a woman who makes a living advising people of which words to use on forms in order to get benefits. Then there is the payment of taxpayer money to human rights lawyers over immigration issues. I am sure there are many, many other abuses of taxpayer money that could be listed. My hope is that the sensible suggestions of Reform could actually be implemented if they do come to power.

The funding would presumably come for the NHS from cutting wasteful public expenditure and the Blob etc.

I'm not sure where you have been for the past 15 years, but since 2010 the tories have cut public expenditure year after year, calling it 'efficiency savings'. This is why the NHS is on its knees, why you can't get doctors appointments or find dentists willing to do NHS work. If you are raped or assaulted and a prosecution is planned it could take *years8 to come to trial. It's why we are short of police and why children's homes and care homes have been privatised because local councils can't afford to run them. It's why roads have pot holes (local councils can't afford the repairs) and why there is a shortage of teachers in state schools.

And you think that Reform is going to make £150+ billions worth of savings out of that lot?

Incidentally, 'the Blob' was, as I recall, a term used by Michael Gove when Education Minister for the 'education establishment' that didn't run state education to his satisfaction... It has since been extended to insult the whole civil service (that's the folk who actually keep the country running)

Here it is:

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Please explain the section about disapplying the 1951 Refugee Convention, the UN Convention against Torture and the Council of Europe Anti-Tracking Convention.

All this is being predicated on the notion that the UK is facing a national emergency. That is nonsense. It is not.

Are you really saying that the UK should turn its back on refugees and people who have been tortured and trafficked?

That would be barbaric and shameful.

Chocolatelovinggran

Teazel, does the Reform party explain how it would stop illegal immigration?
If this party has a suggestion as to how that might be achieved, surely they could tell us, so that we, as a nation, can achieve it.
I am not being provocative . I am a fervent supporter of legal migration ( a recent visit to A&E confirmed how reliant we are on people from other countries to support the NHS), and am opposed to anyone illegally staying.

There is a detailed explanation on the BBC website, just type into Google ‘how does Reform plan to stop the boats’. Its called ‘operation restoring justice ‘.

I also have no problem with legal immigration, but we need to be able to control our borders and to vet who is coming into the UK. It is also unfair to those who have applied via the legal route.

Teazel, does the Reform party explain how it would stop illegal immigration?
If this party has a suggestion as to how that might be achieved, surely they could tell us, so that we, as a nation, can achieve it.
I am not being provocative . I am a fervent supporter of legal migration ( a recent visit to A&E confirmed how reliant we are on people from other countries to support the NHS), and am opposed to anyone illegally staying.

Magenta8

vintage1950

Didn't Farage say that asylum seekers were killing and eating swans? However would they manage that?

They are raiding the royal parks. They eat carp too. No evidence of either actually happening.

This story belongs to the same irrational scare mongering tactic as Trump saying Haitians immigrants eat pet cats and dogs.

Actually in my dh’s fishing lake in a public park they have caught two polish men taking specimen carp to eat. Please remember that carp used to be farmed by monks for eating.
As for the swans, I don’t know but they were eaten by royalty in the past.
Either way, I think it might just be a lack of our cultural knowledge.
Farage is just stirring up trouble!

Teazel2

Allira

Oh, thanks Teazel.
Or no thanks.

Retired hardworking Civil Servant here.

I can only apologise, .I really did not know it was offensive, just thought it was a word used to describe the Civil Service.

Well, it doesn't sound very nice to my mind.

As if Civil Servants are one homogenous mass.
I can assure you they are not.

DaisyAnneReturns

Does anyone know of another forum for older people? This one appears to be being swamped. Obviously, they have the right to join but there must be somewhere more pleasant, where debate can still take place.

I don't know much about social media sites.
Do you want one where everyone agrees with each other?
Perhaps other posters might know.

Who are they , please?

Allira

Oh, thanks Teazel.
Or no thanks.

Retired hardworking Civil Servant here.

I can only apologise, .I really did not know it was offensive, just thought it was a word used to describe the Civil Service.

PaynesGrey

It's a pejorative term and I ask you not to use it.

Is it? I really had no idea, and apologise if so. I have read it used in newspapers and genuinely did know it was perjorative.

Oh, thanks Teazel.
Or no thanks.

Retired hardworking Civil Servant here.