Is the country ready for a Farage government?

I'm all for Reform to give someone else a try. Labour has gone back on every single thing they said they would do in their manifesto and I can't keep up with all their U turns on what they say they are going to do. If deporting illegal boat immigrants stops the boats I'm all for it. Do people realise 25 people have drowned this year on these illegal boats. That's 25 lives lost and the gangs don't care. People have suffocated in lorries too. It's a huge waste of human life and very sad. To say nothing about the fact that British people are sleeping in vans, cars, tents and on the streets while illegal immigrants are in hotels. It's a shameful mess and Starmer hasn't got a clue how to solve it.

Your evidence? Elegran

Menopauselbitch

Delene100

Couldn't agree more. You only haven't look at Trump's government to see the future of the UK if Farage is elected. A lot can change till the next General 3lection.

So you think taking poison out of food, getting rid of illegals and forcing Companies to actually open up businesses in their own country is a bad thing ?

“It is no secret that the bulk of Ivanka Trump’s merchandise comes from China. But just which Chinese companies manufacture and export her handbags, shoes, and clothes is more secret than ever, an Associated Press investigation has found.

In the months since she took her White House role, public information about the companies importing Ivanka Trump goods to the U.S. has become harder to find. Information that once routinely appeared in private trade tracking data has vanished, leaving the identities of companies involved in 90 percent of shipments unknown. Even less is known about her manufacturers. Trump’s brand, which is still owned by the first daughter and presidential adviser, declined to disclose the information.

The deepening secrecy means it’s unclear who Ivanka Trump’s company is doing business within China, even as she and her husband, Jared Kushner, have emerged as important conduits for top Chinese officials in Washington. The lack of disclosure makes it difficult to understand whether foreign governments could use business ties with her brand to try to influence the White House — and whether her company stands to profit from foreign government subsidies that can destroy American jobs. Such questions are especially pronounced in China, where state-owned and state-subsidized companies dominate large swaths of commercial activity.”
I know this is from Trumps first term in office but I doubt if things have changed. His family is making a fortune out of his second term in office.

There is a problem with not wanting to support the idea of Net Zero in the medium/long term until the British Economy is all sorted out and everyone can afford everything they need with enough left over to have what they don't need but would like to have too. It is that by the time that is achieved it may be too late and the global climate will have tipped too far to rebalance it with Net Zero or any other measures. It looks as though it will by then have to be Net Well Below Zero or even that the prospect of a future comfortable world for the human race is Zero.

We have to work on all challenges, or one creeps up on us while our attention is on another.

He just preaches hate and dissent.He is a ghastly tin pot Trump who loves Putin.The Reform councils are making a terrible mess of things.Let’s hope the people who voted for this awful party see the error of their ways.The right wing media should scrutinise Farage far more than they do - heis given a very easy ride and I am sick of seeing him all over the television.

DaisyAnneReturns

Does anyone know of another forum for older people? This one appears to be being swamped. Obviously, they have the right to join but there must be somewhere more pleasant, where debate can still take place.

The door's not locked. You are free to leave at any time.

I very much hope this is not the way we will go as a nation and that the other parties do not try to copy Farage in a hopeless bid to get votes. Let us look for an inclusive humanitarian non-racist vision complete with costed and practical plans.

JuBut

Anyone would be better than what's in government now!!!! Bring him in!!!

Really? Someone who is prepared to break international and maritime law? Someone who is more than happy to remove settlement status from those who already have it? Someone who doesn’t give a fig about his own constituents and rarely appears, doesn’t have forums with his residents, doesn’t run surgeries, only has a base living in a house paid for and in his gf’s name (nice way of avoiding paying any additional stamp duty!) someone who admires Trump and wants our NHS modelled on the US system.

Not for me, thank you.

Absolutely Grantnow. It's why I suggested we might have a snap election so that Reform are put to the test. We can then lay to rest once and for all the unicorn fantasy that Farage is some kind of warrior chosen to lead us to the Promised Land.

Personally I think that a major step forward for the Labour government is getting rid of Ed Milliband.
Of course we all support the idea of Net Zero in the medium/long term but it isn't realistic to try to achieve it in the short term at the expense of the British Economy. Many people have trouble paying their fuel bills and it will only get worse unless the targets are drastically reduced.
I pay the fuel bills for two properties, one permanently occupied and the other seldom. Both electricity bills are the same, largely because of the over-high standing changes.
People with lower incomes naturally try to reduce their fuel bills, but the fuel used has far less effect on the price than the ridiculously high standing charges.

Moii

Me too. I see the route of the abuse of this country is allowing so many to claim and live of benefits. I voted out not because I wanted to leave the EU but because it was so abused by people coming here just for benefits. Before anyone says they were working yes many were part time and low income claiming all the tax credits and housing top up benefits, we had to give everyone in the EU sane as we gave our own and now thousands in dinghys, do you really think they'd be turning up if there were camps like in Calais and no freebies. We have over 400 in our local town, they have had to have the police at the local school, they were filming the children (it happened) I feel reform are the only ones that will stop this. Ideally labour will stop it and reform won't be needed.

How? How will reform “stop the boats”?

I do not believe that there is even one person on GN who doesn’t think we need to stop people arriving on small boats, for so many reasons, but how?

Well I certainly am not. I would rather die.

The OP asks the wrong question. The right question is whether Farage is ready for government and the answer is 'no'.

There's a couple of years more for this government to wreck the UK sort itself out before their term expires. Farage has a mastery of PR, a soundbite every day, but presuably he will run out of inflamatory things to say and do before the next election. In many peoples' opinion Badenoch is not a realistic PM so presumably there will be a new Tory leader by then and the Libdems are gently imploding under Davey, so the competitors will probably be changed.
I'm not convinced that Farage could manage the economy and I don't know enough about other potential Reform Chancellors of the Exchequer to judge. It really is about time that we had a professional financial person running our economy, rather than the load of amateurish tosh that we've had recently.

Anyone would be better than what's in government now!!!! Bring him in!!!

Me too. I see the route of the abuse of this country is allowing so many to claim and live of benefits. I voted out not because I wanted to leave the EU but because it was so abused by people coming here just for benefits. Before anyone says they were working yes many were part time and low income claiming all the tax credits and housing top up benefits, we had to give everyone in the EU sane as we gave our own and now thousands in dinghys, do you really think they'd be turning up if there were camps like in Calais and no freebies. We have over 400 in our local town, they have had to have the police at the local school, they were filming the children (it happened) I feel reform are the only ones that will stop this. Ideally labour will stop it and reform won't be needed.

Please tell me what are the fantastic things labour have done since the election.

Could it be the huge increase in energy costs. The destruction of private schools. The national insurance increase that has led to a loss of jobs. The interference in what is taught in our schools. The huge rise in salaries for their friends in the unions. The rise in boats coming across the border. The removal of winter fuel allowance. The moronic net zero push that is liable to lead to electricity cuts this winter. Having to import gas and electricity at spot prices to make up our deficit in energy.

I cannot understand why Gransnet can support this state of affairs, or does none of this affect you.

Terrifying...They ate being abetted by the media.

Does anyone know of another forum for older people? This one appears to be being swamped. Obviously, they have the right to join but there must be somewhere more pleasant, where debate can still take place.

ViceVersa

Oh, we're venturing into the realms of comedy now, are we?

More like badly written satire

Oh, we're venturing into the realms of comedy now, are we?

Educator, it is because we are well-educated and of sound mind that we vote Reform and are Brexiteers, without the need for spiteful jibes in the name of debate.

Sorry, disagree with you!

I find it very sad that we cannot debate political matters without some people being downright rude . Yes, I will be voting Reform and yes I am a Brexiteer! Oh and btw, I am educated and of sound mind!!

Oh dear! Many of us do not agree with you, dear!