What is the gulf between what the current party leaders believe themelves to be and the reality in your view?

Well, in terms of the last government, it was a mixture of ineptitude,lack of conviction, etc.

Oh and I forgot lawyers.

I like what Badenoch says[I have by know means heard a lot].
I think she believes in what she says.

I personally cannot get over the hurdle, atm anyway, of thinking, if she were to get into power, she could and would get the things she wants, actually done.

I would like to know what happens when a person gets into power.
Who are they thwarted by?
Civil servants?
Men in suits or whatever they are called.
People who pull purse strings?
Who exactly?

I also quite liked some of the points she made around assisted dying.

Womens rights/ single sex spaces, she was ahead of the game, even though I blame her government for quite a lot of the mess.

The Laffer curve, as proved by Gordon Brown. I think it was 2004, that he reached the limits of cigarette taxes, and they fell heavily the following year. So much so, that he never put their taxes up again.

This time round for labour is different. It's the first time they haven't inherited a good economy. This is why things are disastrous so quickly.

Mind you Reeves will improve things next month won’t she with her delayed Budget?

Galaxy

I think she is actually on top of her brief on the subjects she knows and understands but I don't think her knowledge base is wide enough.

Which subjects do you think she knows and understands?

I just posted on another thread about the tv interview this morning, it was more of a one sided rant, which made it hard for Laura to get a a question or even a word in.

I think she is actually on top of her brief on the subjects she knows and understands but I don't think her knowledge base is wide enough.

Galaxy

I think Badenoch is in the wrong place at the wrong time, whoever was leading the Tories at this time was facing an impossible task.

I actually think there's a vacancy for a party to represent the centre right , which some Conservative MPs are (the ones who survived the Johnson purge).

nanna8

I think Badenoch is the best of the bunch and I wish we had someone like her here. I won’t say what I think of Starmer because it would break obscenity rules.

Do you think Badenoch is what she claims to be? She's not what Conservative voters seem to want.

I think Badenoch is the best of the bunch and I wish we had someone like her here. I won’t say what I think of Starmer because it would break obscenity rules.

I think Badenoch is in the wrong place at the wrong time, whoever was leading the Tories at this time was facing an impossible task.