Breaking news, midnight - Peace in the Middle East?

Not just attacks on Jews but on anyone at all as THEY hate liberal Western values

Casual racism.

Interesting YouTube video up this morning =

"Report: Israel Announces Plan To OCCUPY Entire Gaza Strip" by the Channel "No More Wars".

Some things are very predictable......

Reading the Jerusalem Post online today - Netanyahu’s popularity has increased, Hamas must be removed from Gaza to ensure safety for the Jewish population plus Jewish settlers should be in Gaza to ensure the safety of the region. Or something like this…. Interesting development. I welcome Trump’s intervention if peace follows as we all hope it will. Early days of course.

Well then. If Netanyahu is voted in again then those voters will bear responsibility for his further actions.

I'm so glad I wasn't eating my breakfast just then - as it would have spattered straight across my computer screen laughing thinking "Oh that's what they're doing - they're probably calling as many Palestinians as they can 'Hamas' and saying it's to "ensure the safety of the region". "Safety for the Jewish population" that is.....wonders about safety for the Palestinians....as there doesn't seem to be anywhere in their own country that is safe for them......

Oh dear....oh dear...

Maremia

Well then. If Netanyahu is voted in again then those voters will bear responsibility for his further actions.

Quite!

I was in politics and generally being an activist - for decades - earlier in my life and so know very well there's many ways of spinning things and many ways of (mis)counting numbers - if one wishes to because of personal bias.

Those violent Settlers are going to ensure 'safety'?
Whose safety is more important?

I am only typing out what I read…. The point missed on GNet is that Hamas is seen as a very real threat to the safety of Israel.
Not of my doing.

Oreo

Yes, there have been many Muslim extremist attacks in the UK, some carried out and some foiled.Also in EU countries.Very easy to look the figures up.Maybe not the numbers as in some other regions but quite enough to come under the umbrella of the word ‘many’.Not just attacks on Jews but on anyone at all as they hate liberal Western values.

What bit of this do you have a problem with Whitewavemark2 am curious?

Yes ronib, Hamas is a threat to every side, but those Settlers are also a threat to peace and safety and security and progress.

Simply curious?

Whitewavemark2

*Not just attacks on Jews but on anyone at all as THEY hate liberal Western values*

Casual racism.

Yes ‘they’ as in Muslim extremists who plan and carry out attacks here and in other countries .

Extremists, whatever their religion or politics, are the ones who kill and maim for their cause. Muslims certainly aren’t alone in that category.

Who said they were Casdon? However Muslim extremists either acting alone or in groups are now the scourge of the modern world.

Denying that fact for the reason of misplaced political correctness does nobody any favours.

There are many scourges in the modern world Oreo. It is true that IS is the current leader in perpetrating terrorist acts, but terrorist groups come and go with great frequency, are all over the world, and are by no means all Muslim. This report broadens the mind to some of the activities out there, it makes very interesting reading.
www.economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/GTI-2024-web-290224.pdf

Lots of info there Casdon. Will have to wait and read it on the PC. Phone screen is too small.
Thanks for sharing.

growstuff

Found it!

www.fondapol.org/en/study/islamist-terrorist-attacks-in-the-world-1979-2024/#:~:text=1.,occurred%20in%20Muslim%20countries1.

It's interesting reading.

No, it doesn't provide proof that there have been "so many" Islamist attacks in the UK or any other European country.

"The countries most affected by Islamist terrorism are Afghanistan (17,075 attacks), Somalia (10,768 attacks), Iraq (8,209 attacks), Nigeria (3,950 attacks), Syria (3,421), Pakistan (2,635), Mali (2,289 attacks), Israel (1,748 attacks), Yemen (1,657 attacks), Algeria (1,387 attacks), Egypt (1,367 attacks), Mozambique (1,302 attacks) and Cameroon (1,230 attacks).

In these thirteen countries, 218,734 deaths were caused by Islamist terrorist attacks, representing 87.5% of the total number of deaths worldwide."

The vast majority of Islamist attacks and deaths (86.3%) have occurred in Muslim countries. They can be viewed as civil war, motivated by fundamentalists who think Muslims are straying too far from basic principles and have been influenced too much by the "west".

It's interesting that the top three countries (Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq) are the source of most asylum seekers, who are trying to escape from fundamental Islam.

No, it doesn't provide proof that there have been "so many" Islamist attacks in the UK or any other European country.

Don't twist what I said to suit your agenda, please, and make me (and others) out to be exaggerating or worse.

As you should know, if you read my post, I said:^
Research has shown that, around the world^:

Which was in response to StripeyGran who queried what someone (can't remember who) said:
Why do you think there have been so many Muslim terror attacks here in the UK and so many other countries?

So I thought I'd have a search.
I found other sources too but that one was fairly precise and soutced from a Think Tank.

Jings! Who is actually saying what?

Lovely photos of older folk enjoying a day at a favourite beach, which they have been unable to do since the war started.

But it is in sharp contrast as in the background is a land of destruction and rubble, where people have insufficient to eat, nowhere to live and are now suffering from infectious diseases like meningitis, diarrhoea and respiratory infections, and where the hospitals are either all destroyed or badly damaged, as well as many of the doctors still being held hostage in Israel.

Time for the powers that be to show good faith, and restore the basic necessities, food fuel and shelter, and in this case medical supplies.
Where are those photos WhiteWave? They sound like 'hope'

Maremia

Time for the powers that be to show good faith, and restore the basic necessities, food fuel and shelter, and in this case medical supplies.
Where are those photos WhiteWave? They sound like 'hope'

Oh in the guardian😊. Where else😀. I’ll try and copy and paste.

Thanks... any wee bit of hope is welcome.

I can’t copy the photos which is a pain, but they are a lovely beach that is a favourite of Israelis which is now open again. The article quotes older folk enjoying a day at the beach, doing what you do at the beach☺️. Paddling and sitting in deck chairs etc.

Allira I haven't twisted what you wrote to suit an agenda I don't have, so don't try to accuse me of something I haven't done.

The fact is that somebody mentioned "Islamist attacks" and you came up with that link, which claimed there have been over a quarter of a million victims of Islamist attacks within a certain time frame (can't be bothered scrolling back to check on the dates).

The truth is that most of the Islamist attacks worldwide have been on other Muslims and are the result of civil wars in so many countries. Think of the English Civil War or the "troubles" in Northern Ireland - both periods in history when people of the same religion fought and killed each other.