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Tony Blair, Peace Envoy…

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GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:16:59

I am pleased for the Israeli families who are getting their family members home, and those who are finally given the chance to bury their dead.

But, and it’s a big but, Tony Blair?

It feels like a slap in the face after all those who died under his leadership in Iraq, both Iraqi’s and British citizens lost their lives, along with Americans.

We were lucky our child came home, many didn’t.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:25:49

Oh dear GG13. You know this hasn’t just happened!

Blair’s involvement in the Middle East has been happening since about 2008.

I absolutely get your bitterness over the lives lost on both sides and in my view was a contributory factor to the unrest in the Middle East ever since, however, and the reality is that he has been put forward both by the Middle Eastern states, and most importantly by the USA (not just Trump - Biden also worked with him).

We may not like it but if he is all we have to work with, then for the sake of peace in that benighted region, and to save any more deaths - all power to his elbow I say!

Smileless2012 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:26:55

Well he must be considered to be of use or he wouldn't be there GG. He didn't make the decision alone, Labour and the Conservatives were committed to giving the invasion approval.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:27:44

As an aside, it has been suggested over the years since his involvement with the Middle East - that it may be seen as an act of atonement. Who knows. No one can see into a persons soul.

Smileless2012 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:27:55

Good post WW.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:30:41

Whitewavemark2

As an aside, it has been suggested over the years since his involvement with the Middle East - that it may be seen as an act of atonement. Who knows. No one can see into a persons soul.

Atonement, maybe.

Increasing his bank account, definitely.

If he and the rest of the Peace Committee manage to pull off a lasting agreement good on them.

But, it is very early and Hamas is still in existence…

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:34:31

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

As an aside, it has been suggested over the years since his involvement with the Middle East - that it may be seen as an act of atonement. Who knows. No one can see into a persons soul.

Atonement, maybe.

Increasing his bank account, definitely.

If he and the rest of the Peace Committee manage to pull off a lasting agreement good on them.

But, it is very early and Hamas is still in existence…

Perhaps, who knows what he does with his money. We can’t make assumptions about something we are clueless about.

Everything is so fragile at the moment - gently , gently must be the key.

Casdon Mon 13-Oct-25 09:43:03

I just want the best, most knowledgeable people available to be leading the peace process. I will give credit to anybody who is instrumental in maintaining stability, be it Trump, Blair, and the nominees from other countries in the Middle East - it’s lives that matter more than anything else.

MayBee70 Mon 13-Oct-25 11:19:27

Whitewavemark2

As an aside, it has been suggested over the years since his involvement with the Middle East - that it may be seen as an act of atonement. Who knows. No one can see into a persons soul.

I’m pretty sure that Iraq haunts him and, yes, he does want to make amends in some way. Let’s not forget that he did help bring an end to The Troubles. Or that Saddam Hussein was a despot who was slaughtering his own people. He isn’t solely responsible for the terrible mistake that was the Iraq war.

silverlining48 Mon 13-Oct-25 11:23:56

I don’t think Tony Blair woukd be acceptable to the Palestinians. Their views have not been sought.

LemonJam Mon 13-Oct-25 11:25:47

Casdon Mon 13-Oct-25 09:43:03
"I just want the best, most knowledgeable people available to be leading the peace process. I will give credit to anybody who is instrumental in maintaining stability, be it Trump, Blair, and the nominees from other countries in the Middle East - it’s lives that matter more than anything else".

I absolutely agree Casdon 👏

LemonJam Mon 13-Oct-25 11:29:01

silverlining48 Mon 13-Oct-25 11:23:56
"I don’t think Tony Blair would be acceptable to the Palestinians. Their views have not been sought".

Their views will become clear- and influenced no doubt by the views of other of other Arab countries. Blair's role may be accepted by Palestine yet....

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 11:38:31

Well the PA have accepted him and they are the only legitimate representatives of the Palestinians at the moment.

Oreo Mon 13-Oct-25 12:27:13

Casdon

I just want the best, most knowledgeable people available to be leading the peace process. I will give credit to anybody who is instrumental in maintaining stability, be it Trump, Blair, and the nominees from other countries in the Middle East - it’s lives that matter more than anything else.

Absolutely!

silverlining48 Mon 13-Oct-25 12:44:12

Indeed Casdon.

Iam64 Mon 13-Oct-25 12:56:42

I agree that the invasion of Iraq was wrong, I was one of many who marched against it. No doubt it added to instability in the region ever since, as those of us who opposed it feared.

This isn’t like the end of ww2 with the enemy surrendered and destroyed. But let’s hope and pray that this peace can grow

GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Oct-25 13:02:19

Iam64 I totally agree with your post 👍

Smileless2012 Mon 13-Oct-25 13:10:51

But let's hope and pray that this peace can grow absolutely Iam and that those best placed to make this happen are in a position to do so.

eazybee Mon 13-Oct-25 17:10:04

I agree with your post, Granny Gravy. I do not trust Blair at all, never have, and as for bringing an end to the Troubles, I remember the 'Comfort Letters ' which were part of the deal that nobody (apart from those who received them) knew about.
I class him with Lord Hermer and Mandelson; what is in it for me.

petra Mon 13-Oct-25 18:20:23

Whitewavemark2

Well the PA have accepted him and they are the only legitimate representatives of the Palestinians at the moment.

They might be the only legitimate representatives of Palestine but the countries who signed the declaration recognising Palestine as a state stipulated the wholesale reform of the PA.

Galaxy Mon 13-Oct-25 18:51:30

I have quite complicated feelings about Blair, I would say my views are now on their third rotation in terms of changing my mind. I think he did some amazing things but also introduced changes which have had unexpected consequences.
I don't think I object to his involvement. I may be alone in thinking that only someone like Trump could have achieved this peace deal ( if it holds), I think therefore we need people who aren't your usual politician, I suspect Blair may fit into that category.

Smileless2012 Mon 13-Oct-25 19:48:52

I agree with your feelings about Tony Blair Galaxy.

Iam64 Mon 13-Oct-25 21:33:43

Galaxy, I welcome your reflective comments about Trump and Blair. I’d prefer a world when the good people were good and the baddies had horns and tails. Leaders of big organisations are often mixed blessings yet they get things done, to the benefit of the organisation they run
Political leaders seem similar. They have huge self belief that takes them into power, they aren’t perfect, don’t please all of the people all of the time.

It’s early days and none of us belief this tentative peace is rock solid . I dislike Trump but he’s managed to persuade or bully an unlikely alliance. Well done that ego driven man

Babamaman Tue 14-Oct-25 14:53:31

Maybe to make it really controversial haveBoris Johnson & Tony Blair together in sorting stuff out!?

MayBee70 Tue 14-Oct-25 16:28:25

Babamaman

Maybe to make it really controversial haveBoris Johnson & Tony Blair together in sorting stuff out!?

Boris Johnson? You are surely joking? The one who was photographed returning from a party given by a Russian oligarch hung over and dishevelled when he was ( I believe, happy to be corrected) foreign secretary. The man who managed to (imo) destroy the Conservative Party.