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Tony Blair, Peace Envoy…

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GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:16:59

I am pleased for the Israeli families who are getting their family members home, and those who are finally given the chance to bury their dead.

But, and it’s a big but, Tony Blair?

It feels like a slap in the face after all those who died under his leadership in Iraq, both Iraqi’s and British citizens lost their lives, along with Americans.

We were lucky our child came home, many didn’t.

mabon2 Tue 14-Oct-25 16:51:35

Why the dickens is Tony Bair, the war monger included in this panel.

Casdon Tue 14-Oct-25 17:05:59

mabon2

Why the dickens is Tony Bair, the war monger included in this panel.

Time to read up on how mabon.
www.timesofisrael.com/revealed-tony-blairs-us-backed-proposal-for-ending-the-gaza-war-and-replacing-hamas/

Mojack26 Tue 14-Oct-25 17:43:22

Can't abide the man!

Diplomat Tue 14-Oct-25 22:57:33

You and me both.

keepingquiet Tue 14-Oct-25 23:07:46

Blair didn't cover himself in glory over Iraq by any means. However, no one has yet referred to his success in bringing about the Good Friday agreement and securing peace in NI.

Maybe that's one of the reasons he's involved here?

Galaxy Tue 14-Oct-25 23:16:40

It might help if we stop having this idea of heroes and villians, human beings are rarely that straightforward.

WithNobsOnIt Tue 14-Oct-25 23:48:48

eazybee

I agree with your post, Granny Gravy. I do not trust Blair at all, never have, and as for bringing an end to the Troubles, I remember the 'Comfort Letters ' which were part of the deal that nobody (apart from those who received them) knew about.
I class him with Lord Hermer and Mandelson; what is in it for me.

Ten out of ten

Blair was, and still a grade.one creep.

He does not have an ounce of integrity in his whole body

MayBee70 Wed 15-Oct-25 08:54:18

Galaxy

It might help if we stop having this idea of heroes and villians, human beings are rarely that straightforward.

For some reason in this country we expect our heroes to be nice guys, squeaky clean. Especially sporting heroes, even though you must need quite a ruthless streak to succeed at the highest level.

MayBee70 Wed 15-Oct-25 09:01:01

keepingquiet

Blair didn't cover himself in glory over Iraq by any means. However, no one has yet referred to his success in bringing about the Good Friday agreement and securing peace in NI.

Maybe that's one of the reasons he's involved here?

Not on this thread but I’m constantly banging on about the good things that Blair did which have been totally overshadowed by the disaster that was Iraq. He has an astute political mind and is imo one of the greatest politicians this country has ever had. Ok, so he has made a lot of money since being in office but, unlike Johnson and Truss has also worked tirelessly on good causes too ( probably as a way of trying to make amends in some way for Iraq, something that must haunt him).

Casdon Wed 15-Oct-25 09:20:01

It’s not a black and white situation with Tony Blair, he had some major successes and some major failures. This article is interesting, in that it shows the influence he had in Eastern Europe, which was very different to the mistakes he made with Iraq.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/tony-blair-gaza-peace-plan-kosovo-trump-b2843061.html

For me, it still comes back to whether those with direct influence on determining how the peace process will work view his abilities compared with other candidates, not what we, with our limited knowledge and understanding of the process, think.

Grantanow Wed 15-Oct-25 10:20:42

Blair is competent unlike some recent PMs. Iraq has been held against him by the Left but I recall he easily won his third General Election AFTER Iraq.

Labradora Wed 15-Oct-25 12:35:42

keepingquiet

Blair didn't cover himself in glory over Iraq by any means. However, no one has yet referred to his success in bringing about the Good Friday agreement and securing peace in NI.

Maybe that's one of the reasons he's involved here?

Good point KeepingQuiet.

Invaluable experience of dealing with intransigeance on both sides and practical stuff like getting long-warring entities to disarm effectively and possibly safely.
I don't think motive matters only that things get done effectively.

Iam64 Wed 15-Oct-25 12:41:11

The point about heroes and villains is well
Made. It’s reminiscent of when women were seen as whores or Madonna’s

Blair was always disliked by the left, just as they dislike Starmer. He was wrong about Iraq but his governments did many positive things

keepingquiet Wed 15-Oct-25 12:43:51

Happy to see the tone is changing a little here. I always considered Blair to be Thatcher's child but his governments were very successful in bringing lots of positive change for ordinary people.

Iam64 Wed 15-Oct-25 12:46:13

Sure Start, the Children Act, working together and decent guidance for multi agency work with vulnerable families all excellent

Along comes Cameron to dismantle it all

silverlining48 Mon 20-Oct-25 15:19:52

Yes sure start was very successful for many families that I worked with.

Smileless2012 Mon 20-Oct-25 15:25:44

That's right Grantanow, his majority was reduced but he did win a third term.