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Maccabi Tel Aviv football club banned

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AGAA4 Fri 17-Oct-25 09:23:24

Aston Villa have banned the fans from Tel Aviv from attending the game. They say that after the violence in Amsterdam when the Jewish club was there that they don't feel they can provide the level of security needed to keep fans and nearby residents safe.
There have been clashes in Norway and Italy when Israel compete.
Aston Villa say it is not antisemitism but just being safety conscious.
Maybe another way could have been found without the ban?

Maremia Sat 18-Oct-25 13:39:34

Report on lunchtime BBC. Seems it will be up to the Police to stay with their decision ot to alter the wording. According to that same report, the Police made their decision after reviewing the behaviour of that team's away fans.
Behaviour.... public safety concerns.

Kate1949 Sat 18-Oct-25 13:40:05

This match wouldn't be a football hooligan issue. It would be, as I said, an excuse for hordes of people to descend on Villa Park using it as an excuse for mayhem and violence.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Oct-25 14:00:35

Apparently the governing bodies FIFA and UEFA, have been considering taking action against IFA for a number of years certainly quite some time before 7th Oct.
One reason was the fact that Israeli clubs were staging matches in the illegal settlements which was first raised in 2013.

Last month the Ho earning bodies were about to suspend IFA, but then the ceasefire was announced so the suspension has been shelved for the time.

This of course is not without precedent.

Russia is banned.

Fans now expect sport to reflect values of equality and fairness - sport can no longer claim political neutrality.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Oct-25 14:01:41

the governing bodies 🙄

escaped Sat 18-Oct-25 14:07:36

The vast majority of supporters are not there to cause violence. Lathyrus and other posters are correct in saying that such acts are contrary to any club's values and to any normal supporter's values.

My DGS plays for an international club at Academy level. This year over 1000 players from 30 countries, plus many more supporters lived abroad side by side for a week in perfect harmony to compete in numerous matches. They included teams from Morocco, Egypt, Ghana, Nigeria, Tanzania, Tunisia, Jordan, including representation from Jews etc.

It's only once out in the world of hatred and harassment that the beautiful game is spoilt by a small minority of people whose only agenda is to cause trouble and attack the supporters of the Israeli team. More often than not, they have nothing to do with football, but as Kate1949 says, use the occasion as an excuse for mayhem and violence.

Lathyrus3 Sat 18-Oct-25 14:11:08

Yes, I totally agree with you escaped. And with Kate. I’m sorry if my post read otherwise.

It’s those who will be there for reasons other that football that are the problem.

escaped Sat 18-Oct-25 14:14:03

Lathyrus3

Yes, I totally agree with you escaped. And with Kate. I’m sorry if my post read otherwise.

It’s those who will be there for reasons other that football that are the problem.

I thought your post said it exactly right!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Oct-25 14:18:22

Fans can actually (contrary to some opinion) Hold more than one thought in their mind at once. You see this, particularly in Europe, where fans watch their team, but at the same time the stadium is awash with Palestinian flags.

Allira Sat 18-Oct-25 14:22:49

Whitewavemark2

Fans can actually (contrary to some opinion) Hold more than one thought in their mind at once. You see this, particularly in Europe, where fans watch their team, but at the same time the stadium is awash with Palestinian flags.

Which should not be allowed imo.

If they want to make a political statement, make it elsewhere.

AGAA4 Sat 18-Oct-25 14:23:25

Maccabi was allowed into UEFA despite not being European when it was expelled from the Arab League.
Perhaps UEFA are regretting this with all the problems with this club.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Oct-25 14:29:00

Allira

Whitewavemark2

Fans can actually (contrary to some opinion) Hold more than one thought in their mind at once. You see this, particularly in Europe, where fans watch their team, but at the same time the stadium is awash with Palestinian flags.

Which should not be allowed imo.

If they want to make a political statement, make it elsewhere.

Times have changed though, and where you get a number of people together, they now make their opinions heard. The governing bodies now appear to accept that.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Oct-25 14:31:07

AGAA4

Maccabi was allowed into UEFA despite not being European when it was expelled from the Arab League.
Perhaps UEFA are regretting this with all the problems with this club.

They have certainly brought a real headache with them, which is the unpopularity of their government.

Perhaps if things calm down - ……………….

Maremia Sat 18-Oct-25 15:19:33

Didn't know that the team was already banned from another League.
Nothing on the news since this morning.
The Police must still be pondering the safety issue.

Allira Sat 18-Oct-25 15:41:22

Maremia

Didn't know that the team was already banned from another League.
Nothing on the news since this morning.
The Police must still be pondering the safety issue.

It was part of the Arab League's boycott of Israel in economics, sports and other areas.
The Arab League is not a football league.

It was, in effect, an attempt at sending Israel to Coventry and trying to stop Jewish people from thinking of emigrating there from other countries.

Not all states or countries complied with the boycott.
Most have decided to abandon the boycott now.

Jaberwok Sat 18-Oct-25 16:35:24

Rosie51. I'm afraid Gaza is the only conflict that people generally feel concerned about, even Ukraine is chip paper news now. Judging by the reception that Israeli competitor had to face at the Eurovision song contest, you have to assume that a lot of hatred shown to Israel and by definition Jews, is antisemitic, although of course this is hotly denied!! Unfortunately this football match is no different. Sudan is an appalling situation, as is Yemen, The Congo, Nigeria, China's treatment of Muslims, Syria, and so much more. However you will never ever see endless protests, perpetrators being banned, or really anyone appearing to care at all! Only Israel, and Israel equals Jews or Zio's as they are now called, and call it what you will, that equals antisemitism. Otherwise, as you said why aren't the protesters out in force about other horrors?

Jaberwok Sat 18-Oct-25 16:46:42

Oh, and Afghanistan, particularly the women. Why no protests about that regime, particularly after that dreadful earthquake where women couldn't be rescued by unrelated men! Seriously, does nobody care about a country run by such cruelty? Unbelievable hypocrisy by West.

Allira Sat 18-Oct-25 16:49:30

AGAA4

Maccabi was allowed into UEFA despite not being European when it was expelled from the Arab League.
Perhaps UEFA are regretting this with all the problems with this club.

The Arab League is not a football league.
🤔

MayBee70 Sat 18-Oct-25 16:53:27

Jaberwok

Oh, and Afghanistan, particularly the women. Why no protests about that regime, particularly after that dreadful earthquake where women couldn't be rescued by unrelated men! Seriously, does nobody care about a country run by such cruelty? Unbelievable hypocrisy by West.

Some of us are still pretty annoyed at the way the west walked away from Afghanistan and gave it back to the Taliban, thus taking away women’s rights yet again. But there’s a limit to the amount of time we can spend banging our heads against a brick wall when it comes to such issues sad. It’s all too depressing.

Maremia Sat 18-Oct-25 17:09:37

Posters are free to start their own Threads about issues that interest or distress them.

AGAA4 Sat 18-Oct-25 17:09:37

Allira Maccabi is not allowed to play football in the Arab league of nations for political reasons. Perhaps I wasn't clear.

Maremia Sat 18-Oct-25 17:12:02

Not quite sure why, but the Taliban is at the moment in armed conflict with Pakistani forces. Killings on both sides.

AGAA4 Sat 18-Oct-25 17:12:44

Maccabi can't play in Asia or Africa so their only option was Europe who allowed them to join.

Maremia Sat 18-Oct-25 17:13:56

One way to help Afghan women and girls is to work with Refugee charities near your own home.

Maremia Sat 18-Oct-25 17:17:15

There are always way to help 'causes' which interest you.

growstuff Sat 18-Oct-25 18:37:11

Maremia

Didn't know that the team was already banned from another League.
Nothing on the news since this morning.
The Police must still be pondering the safety issue.

Originally, Maccabi Tel Aviv played under the name "Palestine" until the creation of the state of Israel. From 1954, Israel played in the Asian Football Confederation, but other Asian teams refused to play them after the 1967 war, so they were voted out. Israel was given UEFA membership in 1994.