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Maccabi Tel Aviv football club banned

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AGAA4 Fri 17-Oct-25 09:23:24

Aston Villa have banned the fans from Tel Aviv from attending the game. They say that after the violence in Amsterdam when the Jewish club was there that they don't feel they can provide the level of security needed to keep fans and nearby residents safe.
There have been clashes in Norway and Italy when Israel compete.
Aston Villa say it is not antisemitism but just being safety conscious.
Maybe another way could have been found without the ban?

Smileless2012 Sun 19-Oct-25 09:18:06

Until the Maccabi board cleans up its own act, the fans get what they deserve well said growstuff.

This decision should be appraised on what it was based on and not incorrect allegations of antisemitism.

AGAA4 Sun 19-Oct-25 09:25:15

Smileless2012

^Until the Maccabi board cleans up its own act, the fans get what they deserve^ well said growstuff.

This decision should be appraised on what it was based on and not incorrect allegations of antisemitism.

I agree. Wanting to keep all safe because a club's fans have been disruptive in other countries does not equate to antisemitism.

Oreo Sun 19-Oct-25 09:36:04

You should have watched the Trevor Phillips tv programme this morning.You may have changed your mind about the ‘no antisemitism’ guff.

Oreo Sun 19-Oct-25 09:40:00

What kind of country do you want us to be? One where a minority who live in Birmingham can sway the police to be on their side as a sort of appeasement? A country that says no Israelis can come here to watch a football match?It’s a slippery slope.

Allira Sun 19-Oct-25 09:40:46

Dorisdodar

This forum is full of contradictions about the displaying of flags.

Yes, it really is ironic 😁

Oreo Sun 19-Oct-25 09:42:02

It’s absolutely right that Starmer and all the leaders of all the political parties overturn this ban.Which am sure they will do.
Do you think all these leaders are wrong?

Allira Sun 19-Oct-25 09:42:33

Galaxy

I am quite glad that we have established that those waving flags are good and those removing them are bad. Handy for future discussions.

Yes!!

Strange conundrum, isn't it 😁

AGAA4 Sun 19-Oct-25 09:44:05

Oreo

You should have watched the Trevor Phillips tv programme this morning.You may have changed your mind about the ‘no antisemitism’ guff.

Wasn't he suspended for Islamaphobia?

Maremia Sun 19-Oct-25 09:44:31

Gosh, missed that one. Who has been waving flags?

Oreo Sun 19-Oct-25 09:45:42

Palestine flags =good British/English flags=bad 🤷🏼‍♀️ strange mindset isn’t it?

Oreo Sun 19-Oct-25 09:46:25

AGAA4

Oreo

You should have watched the Trevor Phillips tv programme this morning.You may have changed your mind about the ‘no antisemitism’ guff.

Wasn't he suspended for Islamaphobia?

Ed Milliband and other guests?

Oreo Sun 19-Oct-25 09:47:00

It was what they were saying, not Trevor Phillips.

Maremia Sun 19-Oct-25 09:49:55

Suspended for Islamaphobia, not a great credit, surely?

Maremia Sun 19-Oct-25 09:50:22

Who was waving the Palestinian flags?

AGAA4 Sun 19-Oct-25 09:54:37

I think all sorts of flags seem to be around now. I've seen a photo of the Maccabi fans with an Israeli flag.
Not sure about flags everywhere. Can seem provocative.

Maremia Sun 19-Oct-25 09:59:25

That is understandable, their country colours, but Palestinian flags were especially mentioned, just above.

Oreo Sun 19-Oct-25 10:00:57

Maremia

Suspended for Islamaphobia, not a great credit, surely?

Temporarily suspended from Labour but reinstated.Anyone who simply stated truths under Corbyn’s regime was likely to be suspended.

Oreo Sun 19-Oct-25 10:02:26

In any case it’s the guests on his show and what they say that’s interesting, he’s just the presenter.He’s done a lot of good work around race relations in the past.

Maremia Sun 19-Oct-25 10:06:54

Wonder what is was he said that was considered to be Islamaphobic, but was possibly the Truth? As you say interesting.

Dorisdodar Sun 19-Oct-25 10:07:12

Maremia...read WWM2s post at 8 20 on page 12..

growstuff Sun 19-Oct-25 10:08:09

No, I don't think it would work and I don't see why Israeli teams should be treated more leniently than other teams.

growstuff Sun 19-Oct-25 10:11:17

Oreo

What kind of country do you want us to be? One where a minority who live in Birmingham can sway the police to be on their side as a sort of appeasement? A country that says no Israelis can come here to watch a football match?It’s a slippery slope.

That is a gross distortion of the truth. Maccabi Tel Aviv has a history of racism and violence, not only in Holland, but in Athens, Serbia and in Israel itself. It's amazing that they haven't been sanctioned before now. They have been banned from Aston Vila on public safety grounds.

Galaxy Sun 19-Oct-25 10:12:30

Well one of the concerns he raised according to the BBC was sexual abuse in Northern towns.

Smileless2012 Sun 19-Oct-25 10:12:33

To answer your question @ 9.42 Oreo yes I do think all those leaders are wrong and if heaven forbid the ban is lifted, there is trouble and Maccabi Tel Aviv 'fans' are responsible, what will you and those leaders have to say then?

growstuff Sun 19-Oct-25 10:15:06

Galaxy

Well one of the concerns he raised according to the BBC was sexual abuse in Northern towns.

Pardon? What's that got to do with a football match in Birmingham?