Afghan who threatened to kill Nigel Farage on run from Swedish Police

There’s no bullying on here, or cliques either that I can see, just different opinions as always.

Wyllow3

I wonder why you didnt hear about it?

I bet you would if it was the other way round - can you imagine the headlines would have got into the DM and Telegraph

I can see it now:

"Asylum seeker stabs Dublin youth in the neck and runs off as he bleeds out to death"

Why so aggressive?
I bet lots of us haven’t heard this, but we do hear about other attacks here when they happen, but not so much from Ireland.
I’ve never seen a man in the street with his pants down giving himself a hand job either, and I’ve lived in some rough areas.
Sounds like a MH problem, just what we need here! That’s the problem when the small boats land here with many undesirables on board.

Wyllow3

*He was a lovely lad wanting to build his future away from the war in the Ukraine to be a doctor (he was innocent enough that, when the white youth said something, he actually went towards him so he could hear him*

*So ask yourselves - why didnt THIS reach the headlines and the O/P posts a false account of abuse*

There have since been some follow ups on this awful story as highlighted that you highlighted, the assailant it is reported is originally from Somalia possibly not "the white youth that went towards him" in your post. Maybe there was some discrepancy in the facts as to why the story didn't appear as it happened. That person has been charged. As ever, irrespective of ethnicity, an absolute tragedy.

There are two different things here tho Cath9.

Those rules are for those applying for visas to live and work in the country.

The rules are different for those accepted as rightly claiming asylum, they do not apply

And the person we are discussing as in the O/P has not been accepted for asylum, he is claiming it (but wont be given it under the rules of giving convicted criminals asylum)

I agree as regards visas and levels of English for those coming to work.

Thank goodness the Home Secretary has at last brought out a sensible idea of those wanting to enter the UK must have an equivalent as an A level in English which is what I have been wanting to happen for a while
My daughter-in-law had to pass two tests in English before she’ was allowed a visa.
This could stop people like the one you mention about being able to remain in the UK.

StripeyGran

Very upset this morning to be basically bullied by the clique on here.

Just plain nasty.

I stand by my assertion that there are good and bad in all people.

Just because posters agree with a does not mean they are in a clique.

Just because posters do not agree with your post does not mean you are being bullied.

Just plain nasty
I will refrain from answering that apart from saying it's just ironic.

Wyllow3

Oh really, as if home grown men don't do that! It happened to me when I was 15 and walking to see my boyfriend up the road.

this is bordering on the ludicrous.

The difference being, the wanker outside McDonalds was given sanctuary in this country together with a roof over his head, food in his stomach, a dry bed to sleep in and a small amount of money.

Whilst I hadn't heard about the one in Ireland, I did however read as reported in most papers including the DM, about a similar stabbing of a 16 year old Syrian boy in Huddersfield who merely brushed by, unintentionally, some murderous thug's girlfriend. I would like to make it quite clear how appalling I found that, as I did with the woman working at the hotel murdered by the asylum seeker, the young Ukrainian woman murdered on the train in the US, whilst the passengers around just sat there and gawped. Unfortunately, the desire to trigger a person's murderous intent appears universal if that's a facet of their behaviour and the horror and revulsion for mindless killings isn't a selective thing. I don't know how clearer I can spell that out.

Wyllow3

Oh, come off it. It would have been headlines in the UK.

What do you know about the perpetrator, for example has this been confirmed as a hate crime? or is he, I imagine it is a he, one of those people looking for a fight in "who are you looking at?" Or hearing voices who haven't taken their medication, I'm not saying it is, but the latter is often a common scenario in such random murders.

This is a conversation that is being had in nearly every European country, saying but look at this over there isn't going to stop those conversations.

Honestly you sound so accusatory! Ireland is a separate country, sometimes there is more concentration on domestic issues. I can't tell you why this wasn't reported, I didn't see it in the ST today which is the only physical paper we take. Do you really think compassion for the victim any victim and disgust against the perpetrator in such a scenario is that selective??? As with any random killing, there are way too many, an absolute appalling tragedy.

Oh, come off it. It would have been headlines in the UK.

He was a lovely lad wanting to build his future away from the war in the Ukraine to be a doctor (he was innocent enough that, when the white youth said something, he actually went towards him so he could hear him

So ask yourselves - why didnt THIS reach the headlines and the O/P posts a false account of abuse

Maybe because it happened in Ireland?

Wyllow3

Oh really, as if home grown men don't do that! It happened to me when I was 15 and walking to see my boyfriend up the road.

this is bordering on the ludicrous.

Not in our little town. I’ve never such an act of indecency

I wonder why you didnt hear about it?

I bet you would if it was the other way round - can you imagine the headlines would have got into the DM and Telegraph

I can see it now:

"Asylum seeker stabs Dublin youth in the neck and runs off as he bleeds out to death"

Wyllow3

And surely posters have read about the nasty fatal stabbing in the neck of a genuine 16 year old asylum seeker in Dublin?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3x5kdy7pro

He was from the Ukraine!

No, we ignore this!

Why would we ignore it, I hadn't heard about it, I did hear about the awful fatal stabbing of the young Ukrainian woman on a train in the US, like this awful, as it is for any innocent person whose life is taken from them irrespective of where they've come from.

It would be helpful if people would say whose posts they are quoting from.

StripeyGran

Very upset this morning to be basically bullied by the clique on here.

Just plain nasty.

I stand by my assertion that there are good and bad in all people.

Very true.
All human beings are capable of being either good or bad, to suppose one group of people is superior/has better values is to fly in the face of human nature.
Sorry you were upset Stripey Gran, some posters need to remember that making their opinions known doesn’t excuse this kind of behaviour.
We can disagree agreeably.

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GrannyGravy13

We are constantly told those arriving are Doctors, Teachers, Engineers etc. …

Who tells you that? We are told " they" are scroungers, perverts, liars and cheats.

Perhaps "they" are indeed a mixture of good and bad and just plain dull.

Oh obviously this individual is a very nasty piece of work.

He certainly is Stripeygran. The important issue here is that the Government should be able to control our borders and so obviously cannot. I struggle with posters who can see no problem with this.

But Brexit was supposed to be a way to control our borders. What happened to that? Isn’t that what Farage campaigned for..and won.

What has happened is that Starmer got voted in.

How silly! There's very little difference between this government and the last one, but you couldn't miss having a go at Starmer.

Just wait until St Nige has his way!!! He'll be co-ordinating everything from the other side of the Atlantic, the Channel or from Dubai (while the minions squabble and don't even notice the landings.)

I have had to read many vitriolic comments about NF (not saying they have been from you), posters cannot miss an opportunity to have a go about him.

Also friends of mine who voted Labour have said they are disappointed in his performance.

can can't

I didn't vote for Brexit but I can see EU member states particularly co-operating with each other. Hungary won't take any migrants, they don't wish to diversify their population, along with the Czech Republic, they can't even assimilate their Roma people who have been with them for 1,000 years and who they treat like pariahs. Poland only takes Ukrainians, who are so similar, it's a bit like Irish settling in England. Italy sends theirs to Albania, Greece has taken to locking up those who are newly arrived. I don't know how many are in Bulgaria but they made it pretty hard for migrants to cross their borders at the outset and most were passing through, why would they stay in a place that's so hostile. Most of Western Europe is floundering around with similar problems without it would seem any unilateral consensus..

Very upset this morning to be basically bullied by the clique on here.

Just plain nasty.

I stand by my assertion that there are good and bad in all people.

And surely posters have read about the nasty fatal stabbing in the neck of a genuine 16 year old asylum seeker in Dublin?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3x5kdy7pro

He was from the Ukraine!

No, we ignore this!

No, the message is that there are some very nasty and possibly ill people around from all backgrounds.

I'll come clean as to why I am angry about this gross labelling just because the person concerned is an asylum seeker.

Exactly a week ago, at about midday, I was grabbed by a man full frontal and hard, and he was a white ex Methodist minister, and I am certainly not recovered from the experience

I have already written of it else where, but posters haven't read it.

Yes I have met asylum seekers who are true victims as I work with refugees locally through the local organisation.