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Caerphilly Election Result - bucking the trend

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Casdon Fri 24-Oct-25 11:05:52

Against all the polls, a clear MS win for Plaid Cymru. A very bad, but entirely predictable result for Welsh Labour, given the current national, and in particular, Welsh disenchantment with them. Unexpectedly, a bad night for Reform too, they really thought they had it in the bag, but far from it, Nigel Farage was there for the count, expecting the victory roll, but left before the result. The Tories got only 2% of the vote. So, the people of Caerphilly went left.

Casdon Mon 27-Oct-25 14:13:00

M0nica

Casdon

Wales won’t accept ‘being run by its compatriots’ M0nica, I’m surprised that you would think that, particularly with Plaid gaining ground here. The NHS here is improving in some areas, and struggling in others - I think what can be learnt from what is happening elsewhere in the UK should be though, bearing in mind Scotland performs better than England on many services.

I said nothing about Scotland and your reference is irrelevant for that reason, though a good attempt of subverting the issue. The current Welsh government has made the NHS in Wales the worst performing in any part of the UK.

We have no evidence to show that Plaid would do any better. Labour said they would work wonders with the NHS before they were elected, but in office only made it worse. There is no eveidence this would change with a change of government.

There are four health systems in the UK M0nica, are you suggesting that only England are the compatriots of Wales? I’m not subverting the issue, I’m pointing out that as Scotland has a better NHS than England in some aspects, Wales can learn from that, which I don’t think is unreasonable.
I don’t understand your second paragraph, as there is no evidence that any party will ever do better than the previous one, is there, the proof only comes when they have actually been in power and we can see the results?

M0nica Mon 27-Oct-25 15:31:56

Casdon I quote from my post; The current Welsh government has made the NHS in Wales the worst performing in any part of the UK. To me that means all parts of the UK, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. What else could it mean?

Casdon Mon 27-Oct-25 15:37:55

Re-read your post telling me off for referencing Scotland M0nica.
To clarify however, Wales is performing worse than England and Scotland on acute services waiting lists and waiting times. That does not mean that every aspect of patient care is worse in Wales than it is in the rest of the UK.

SparklyGrandma Mon 27-Oct-25 20:26:54

Casdon I wouldn’t agree with you there about the Welsh NHS. In the Valleys all aspects are awful with working class people paying to see private consultants just to get referrals for acute health problems even for suspected cancer etc.