Manhunt for Ethiopian asylum seeker sex offender accidentally released

growstuff

petra

He will have a story to tell when he gets home.
Trouble being, no one will believe him 😂

I was thinking the same kind of thing. I expect somebody is already planning to write a drama.

I was thinking more on the lines of The Keystone Cops 😂

petra

Allira

StripeyGran

How do we know a female helped a criminal to escape deportation please?

I think a lot of staff are "bought in".

I think a lot of staff are "bought in".

What does that mean?

Don’t ask 😂

It's a fairly standard term I believe.

petra

growstuff

petra

He will have a story to tell when he gets home.
Trouble being, no one will believe him 😂

I was thinking the same kind of thing. I expect somebody is already planning to write a drama.

I was thinking more on the lines of The Keystone Cops 😂

That would be perfect!

Not very funny for his victims, though.

This incident confirms what prison governors and those interested in our criminal justice system have been saying for years. Getting rid of more experienced staff and replacing them with 18 year olds was not, never could be cost effective

I’ve just heard some Conservative MP demanding a oubkuc inquiry into how this incident happened. What a ridiculous suggestion. Spend yet more public money to establish what governors and frankly anyone with knowledge of our prisons has been saying

Allira

Not very funny for his victims, though.

No, it's not funny for them at all - and that makes it so much worse. What Kebatu did was all over the news media for days. Chelmsford isn't that far from Epping. The staff at the prison must have heard of him, so he wasn't anonymous.

The whole thing has descended into a farce, which shows that Kebatu's punishment hasn't been treated seriously.

StripeyGran

So they released one and kept another in jail? Maybe?

Skydancer

StripeyGran

So they released one and kept another in jail? Maybe?

Keep one, let one free.

aka KOLOF

Our best chance to catch him is if he pours his coffee down a drain.…

PaynesGrey

Indeed, growstuff. Why would he?

Police know that he caught a train at 12:41. The Met were informed just 16 minutes later at 12:57 that he had been released in error.

That train stops at Stratford at 13:06 and London Liverpool Street 13:14. Probably too late to mobilise officers in time to apprehend him at a station but he will be easy to track though CCTV.

I’d be very surprised if he wasn’t apprehended today (Saturday).

Well, any hopes along those lines appear to be dashed.
There is a British Transport Police Office at Stratford. Nine minutes is surely plenty of time to get to the platform exit.
Seems like he isn't that easy to track through CCTV, so what's going on?
It's nearly Sunday - unless we hear anything in the next hour ...... or maybe two, seeing as the clocks are going back tonight!

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Our best chance to catch him is if he pours his coffee down a drain.…

😂

I don’t know. The police officer in charge of ops said Kebatu had been travelling around London and CCTV images would be released later today. There is a clear video of him inside Dalston Square Library, Hackney said to be around 6 pm yesterday, five hours after he got off the train at Stratford. This is not a man trying to hide. This looks like a man seeking assistance (or maybe trying to get access to the internet). London is awash with CCTV. Something odd about all this.

Something odd about all this.

Very odd. I wonder if he has friends in this country and he's trying to contact them so he can be helped to go to ground?

He seems confused. A witness is reported as saying he tried to return to prison 4 ir 5 times but the guards sent him away.

This incident confirms what prison governors and those interested in our criminal justice system have been saying for years. Getting rid of more experienced staff and replacing them with 18 year olds was not, never could be cost effective

The problem of staffing as in the police and the armed forces seems to be the calibre of those applying and the rapid turnover of those who do. And inevitably brings into question the motivation of too many applicants.
Why is this?
It’s very tempting to talk about silk purses and sows’ ears but these are our public servants, people we rely on for our own personal safety and the fabric of society. Do we want our law enforcers like our squaddies to be drawn from the violence- seeking dregs of our young people? To inspire that famous comment by I think the Duke of Wellington as he surveyed his British troops “I don't know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but, by God, they terrify me".

I mean odd in the sense of the "accidental" release and that he was still walking around in daylight (well until around 5:00 pm) in east London five hours after the Met were put on alert ... and still they can't find him.

Have they talked to staff at the library to see if he spoke to them or used a computer in which case there will be a history of what he looked at. The delivery driver at the prison said he understood that he was to be deported, wanted to be deported but didn't know where he had to go.

Has he been found yet ? You wouldn’t make it up !

nanna8

Has he been found yet ? You wouldn’t make it up !

Not yet, and the police are appealing to him to give himself up!

The difference with the troops at Waterloo was that they obeyed instructions, held the line, literally, and won the battle.

But were the prison staff given the right orders in the first place?
The troops were according to Wellington “drawn from the scum of the Earth” - and if you move on in history, not infrequently subject to poor leadership as in the Charge of the Light Brigade.
Poor recruits means an impoverished pool to draw on for management positions.
A mix of poor management and inexperienced prison officers with often less than 2 years’ experience - what could possibly go wrong?

Iam64

This incident confirms what prison governors and those interested in our criminal justice system have been saying for years. Getting rid of more experienced staff and replacing them with 18 year olds was not, never could be cost effective

I’ve just heard some Conservative MP demanding a oubkuc inquiry into how this incident happened. What a ridiculous suggestion. Spend yet more public money to establish what governors and frankly anyone with knowledge of our prisons has been saying

Really stupid - well how thought through was that?

. Spend the money on more prison staff, training, etc.

BTW, "bought in" staff would be agency staff I presume, whose training may not be to an acceptable level, particularly when it comes to complex procedures like this one.

I have a family member working in the Ministry of Justice and the entire system is a mess. Like far too many things in the UK it is not fit for purpose.

I think, if I remember correctly that this is a remand prison so they will probably have many discharges every day.
He apparently told the van driver he was supposed to be deported and had no idea what to do as the prison had turned him away... Who knows, if he can find a police station he may well hand himself in.

I hope he does... before someone murders or maims him.

Yes, this is not a 'one person' mistake, but a 'whole systems' failure. In fact, many systems.
He was apparently trying to get back in. An opportunity there and then for the error to be rectified.
He doesn't appear to be running away, or trying to hide. Plenty of CCTV coverage.
Stated upthread that this is not the first time a wrong release has happened. And so, you would expect protocols to be in place, to correct this asap. Nothing.
Because of the heightened coverage, things should now change and improve.
'Bought in' temporary workers, probably covering for staff absences , would not get the same amount of training as new recruits. Not worth the investment. Happens in lots of situations.

like far too many things in the UK it is not fit for purpose

As was predicted when Austerity was announced as a means of saving money. Inevitably, one side effect of running down public services was the way public servants were seen. An increasing lack of respect, with police, teachers, nhs staff sneered at by government and subjected to abuse by many people.

Recruitment and retention of police, social work, probation, education, health, prisons is an increasing problem. It’s not one our country can turn round easily or at speed