Moving immigrants to army camps?

It annoys me when pro immigrants say asylum seekers are housed in sub standard accommodation.

On the outskirts of Dublin there is a beautiful hotel with stunning grounds, a lake etc. it now houses over 2,100 asylum seekers. Local residents are unhappy and protesting.

Wyllow3

kircubbin2000

I don't think they have a clue how to solve this. Being in camps will be no different. They will complain. The locals will complain. Girls will get raped and locals upset.

Here we go again. Being an irregular migrant means girls will get raped.

Actually I will report this, it is a vile and gross generalisation, and ask them to delete this to if they delete that.

"Irregular migrants" ?? So they are now "irregular" instead of "illegal"?
Let's be clear - when they enter our country "illegally", they are breaking the law, no ifs, no buts.
Don't try to water down the term "illegal immigrants" - because that's exactly what they are - illegal.

growstuff

Aveline

No it's not. Who are these thousands of people arriving on the rubber boats? Why come here?

Yes, it is! Globally, the majority of asylum seekers don't come to the UK, so your question uses a false premise.

Even if Globally, the majority of asylum seekers don't come to the UK, as Aveline said, thousands still do so I don't understand what you mean by false premise.

Could you explain please.

Allira

I think a lot of posters quote anecdotes.

Unless anything is witnessed by a lawyer, been in front of a judge etc it is by definition anecdotal.

I think a lot of posters quote anecdotes.

Forget globally. I'm asking about here and now as you must well know. Why prevaricate?

growstuff you will not always get answers to your questions that you like or agree with, thus does not make them untrue.

growstuff you asked upthread if any one had sat down with an asylum seeker and talked face-to-face

I have, my friends have.

I answered your question 🤦‍♀️

Aveline

No it's not. Who are these thousands of people arriving on the rubber boats? Why come here?

Yes, it is! Globally, the majority of asylum seekers don't come to the UK, so your question uses a false premise.

GrannyGravy13

growstuff a very good friend and his wife housed young asylum seekers (under 18’s) with mixed outcomes.

One went on to university, one college and then work, the others stole from them, trashed their rooms and eventually disappeared.

That's anecdotal.

No it's not. Who are these thousands of people arriving on the rubber boats? Why come here?

Aveline

Why come here though? Why come through several safe countries to get here? Why destroy papers? So many questions that could be answered.

Most asylum seekers don't come to the UK, so the question is a red herring.

From what I could see of the Scottish site on the news last night, it looks much more suitable than hotels. There appears to be grounds, football pitches etc. What it is doing to the mental health of the asylum seekers cooped up in hotels for months on end I can only imagine.
I think, in addition to moving them out of hotels, the whole regime should be changed, so they are getting proper English lessons and lessons about living in the UK. They should also have organised compulsory voluntary work to do. This would help them and their communities.

growstuff a very good friend and his wife housed young asylum seekers (under 18’s) with mixed outcomes.

One went on to university, one college and then work, the others stole from them, trashed their rooms and eventually disappeared.

Oops sorry premature posted.

Deporting unsuccessful migrants is not made easy by counter claims etc., by their lawyers (paid for by the tax payer mostly some are funded or part funded by charities)

The number of deportations has increased under this government. AI summary: these are the latest available figures.

In the year ending June 2025, the UK had 9,100 enforced returns of people with no legal right to be in the country, an increase of 25% from the previous year. This figure is separate from the 26,761 voluntary returns recorded in the same period, which were up by 13%. For the specific period of 5 July 2024 to 4 January 2025, there were 4,390 enforced returns, including 2,580 foreign national offenders.

growstuff migrants appealing their claims are housed by the Government.

All migrants are housed by the Government until such time they receive a leave to remain in which case they are on their own, or they are deported.

Didn’t they Tories try that before? I believe it wasn’t good enough, that the dining room was torched in one of the barracks.
Yes I believe there will be genuine refugees. They shouldn’t mind living in an army barracks temporarily, if they are escaping genuine torment.

Why come here though? Why come through several safe countries to get here? Why destroy papers? So many questions that could be answered.

Primrose53

Wyllow3

JenniferEccles

They need to concentrate their efforts on stopping these migrants coming in the first place, not scratching heads about where to put them when they are here.

I know it’s been said many times before but we need an effective deterrent- something like, oh I don’t know, maybe a plan in place to send them to somewhere like Rwanda.

Hang on, wasn’t there such a plan until this ghastly, useless government abandoned it ?

In the meantime ex army camps will be cheaper and if they are sufficiently uncomfortable, so much the better.

You do realise that some irregular migrants are genuine asylum seekers, some coming from horrific situations?

so you want to punish them

"if they are sufficiently uncomfortable, so much the better."

Terrific. Britain at its best. So sad people should have this attitude. and yes, I say this, as Quakers locally are involved with and help out genuine, often shattered and troubled, people.

I went to a Quaker friends house Jennifer and met a young man from the Sudan. He was 16 so had left his home at 14 as both his parents had been murdered by machetes and they were recruiting child soldiers. Yes, for real. Poor lad just wanted to be a footballer (unlikely, but understandable)

And you all believed that? 🤔. They can spin any stories they like as most people know.

I doubt if you have ever actually sat down with an asylum seeker and talked face-to-face.

Better late than never- still, I will never vote Labour or Tory ever again.

GrannyGravy13

Cossy

Allira

There's nothing wrong with Army camps.
Single accommodation for single men, flats or houses for families.

I've lived in service accommodation. It was fine, could have done with a bit of updating but it was perfectly functional.
We had to pay rent, despite beliefs to the contrary.

I agree, I think it would be a good move, though I doubt the people in those areas where these are situated would agree.

I doubt the people in Epping or elsewhere where migrants are housed in hotels are jumping with joy.

The fact is the U.K. has 1,000’s of migrants in small boats landing on its shores each year and they have to be housed somewhere whilst their asylum claims are processed.

If the government deports pdq all those who have been unsuccessful in their claims it would lessen the need for accommodation.

I am grateful to all the migrants who come here through legal channels and work in our NHS, Care System and elsewhere.

People who have been unsuccessful in asylum claims don't have a right to accommodation, so this is irrelevant.

There are some people who don't fear escalating violence and civil unrest - they revel in it and are actively causing it.

The emphasis over the past few days seems to have moved in the direction of acceptance and discussion about where to house people. 'Little talk of what can be done to halt the boats, and the blatant criminal activity of taking money from people to send them to Britain illegally. However much sympathy you have, this cannot go on and there will be a tipping point. So much corruption - the government has made no effort it seems to claim back millions in over payement from companies providing accommodation. I fear escalating violence and civil unrest.

Primrose53

I completely understand you are absolutely entitled to share your views and beliefs BUT I find it so sad that you appear to believe that there are no genuine asylum seekers

Do you not watch or read news from a wide range of sources and see what’s happening in many parts of our world?

Things you wouldn’t wish on your worst enemies, tho gs you’d never dream humans are capable of doing, things we thought had been left behind after WW2.

Please at least try and accept that a large proportion of those arriving on small boats are genuinely fleeing some horrendous events in their countries of origin.

I agree, our entire system re policing and processing these applications is flawed and needs radical reform (with a small r!)