It never rains, but it pours.

WithNobsOnIt

Never going to happen.

Always amazed that people rarely discuss the rate of population growth on our very overbcrowded and polluted tiny island.

Population growth comes from inward migration, not from natural growth. The birthrate, as in many countries is below replacement rate.

By the end of this century world population will be falling

Governing is difficult. I personally think that setting high (and possibly unrealistic) targets isn’t a bad thing if it gets people of their backsides to achieve greater things than would otherwise have happened.

Well said M0nica

Am in two minds about new legislation regarding renters rights. On the one hand I can see how the government needs to clamp down on bad landlords. But at the same time there are bad tenants as was mentioned on the politics show who can trash rented property, be anti social, and go into arrears, and now due to this legislation it will be even harder to evict them meaning a private landlord on a buy to let mortgage could end up going into debt and have the rented property repossessed.
This is why so many private landlords are selling up meaning there are less properties to rent and the property market is saturated.
Also the bad landlords will most often be property associations or big business men/women with huge portfolios. So the new legislation won’t cause them to miss a beat.

Never going to happen.

Always amazed that people rarely discuss the rate of population growth on our very overbcrowded and polluted tiny island.

Monica - hear hear!!!

nanna8

Houses here are going up and up all the time. There is a huge demand because of all the new people coming to live here. I would have thought it would be the same in the UK to hear the discussions about all the people arriving from everywhere ? Rentals are impossibly high, too, for the same reason. I have been following the market because of a member of our family buying a house for the first time. He has finally purchased one but it hasn’t been easy.

I know what it's like over there too, nanna8
Prices have doubled in some areas in a very short time. ☹

GrannyGravy13

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Hands up everyone that hates this government. 😂

I am not one of life’s haters.

But, I am disappointed, underwhelmed and flipping frustrated with the current government, and the opposition parties are pretty dire as well.

Ditto to GrannyGravy's comment.

I an distinctly underwhelmed.

How many of us can afford an electric car?

I don’t consider them green as they use lots of electricity.

Why do we always have to be seen to be green?

It’s not wholly viable. And it’s never going to happen.

House prices are not becoming more and more unafordable. What has happened is that with the sale of council housing and the failure to replace it means that many people who would otherwise been happy to have a secure tenancy in a council property because their wages or uncertainity of work makes that the best and most secure home solution for them are instead being forced into considering house purchase because the private rental sector is too uncertain and expensive housing solution for them. For them buying a house is always going to be difficult.

MaizieD

theworriedwell

If the house you're buying has dropped in price to a similar level as the house you're selling I don't think it matters really.

Sadly house prices do have to fall because they are becoming more and more unaffordable for people who just want to get themselves a home.

A home, not an 'asset' that they depend on to rise in value and make them a profit; or that they can rent out very profitably to some poor soul who can't raise the money needed for a deposit but who has to pay rent for their home which could actually exceed what they might have had to pay in mortgage repayments.

MaizieD I agree. It’s heartbreaking that so many have to rent - if they like to buy that is.

I don’t know why lenders don’t take into account good tenants who pay rent on time, no gaps over an extended period of time - say 2 years - in lieu of a deposit? Or do they and I’m unaware?

Ought I to have said “everyone WHO hates”? Not ‘that’? 🤷‍♀️

theworriedwell

New development near me has slowed down building due to difficulty selling them, they've knocked £10k off the price and all sorts of incentives. If people aren't buying builders aren't going to build. The housing market seems very slow.

Not knowing where you are, this is not the case here. We are commutable from London, but homes are significantly cheaper. London landlords are buying up whole tranches of housing and filling them with tenants on the social list from London boroughs. We do not have the schools, doctors or other services for all these extra young needy families, and our councils are not getting the funding that goes with.

To mostly harmless -sadly I think Reform may win, or at least take a large number of seats, at the next general election because for far too long the main parties have taken the electorate for granted. Eventually the worm has turned giving Farage & his crew a platform.

Mt61

M0nica

I have no idea what the Tory party promised, nor do I beleieve anything Reform says they are run by a charlatan and we know they are always liars.

What irritates me about this government and others, I hold no candle for the Conservatives is that so often as described here, governments are told what the situation is, but choose to ignore it, making their fall from grace so much worse.

What particularly irritates me about Labour is that they are the party of wishful thinking. They set these huge housing target but despite what people advise them they fail to factor in that with so many of these houses being sold on the open market, achieving these high build rates is dependent on a buoyant housing market and that when economic conditions have been as they have been over the last 2 years, the market for homes, old or new has been slow to static and in these conditions. Housing targets have to be revise - downwards.

The samw with windpower. The government had been told for a considerable time that their figures were over estimated, but they were so in love with the incorrect figures that they refused to face reality until the critical point where having to down scale them, not only makes them look foolish but is very expensive as well.

I think all politicians lie through their teeth if it means getting votes.

I do not think these own goals are lying. It is wishful thinking, thinking because they want to do something they can - by simply ignoring the problems and complexities , crossing their fingers and whistling for the wind.

A high housing policy requires an economic situation that makes people want to buy their first house or move up the ladder. You cannot hope to tank the economy and then expect people to buy houses. That cannot be solved by ignoring the facts.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Hands up everyone that hates this government. 😂

🤚🏻🤚🏻🤚🏻🤚🏻🤚🏻🤚🏻

M0nica

I have no idea what the Tory party promised, nor do I beleieve anything Reform says they are run by a charlatan and we know they are always liars.

What irritates me about this government and others, I hold no candle for the Conservatives is that so often as described here, governments are told what the situation is, but choose to ignore it, making their fall from grace so much worse.

What particularly irritates me about Labour is that they are the party of wishful thinking. They set these huge housing target but despite what people advise them they fail to factor in that with so many of these houses being sold on the open market, achieving these high build rates is dependent on a buoyant housing market and that when economic conditions have been as they have been over the last 2 years, the market for homes, old or new has been slow to static and in these conditions. Housing targets have to be revise - downwards.

The samw with windpower. The government had been told for a considerable time that their figures were over estimated, but they were so in love with the incorrect figures that they refused to face reality until the critical point where having to down scale them, not only makes them look foolish but is very expensive as well.

I think all politicians lie through their teeth if it means getting votes.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Hmm. Milliband. Seeing as his Doncaster home still had a gas boiler when he was ramming heat pumps down everyone's throats. And a Petrol car when doing the same with EVs.
And flying in private jets all over the world (admittedly as they all do!).

You will forgive many of us for not supporting net zero with sky-high domestic energy bills and the destruction of our heavy industrial base with world-high commercial energy prices.

Hear, hear, FGT.
What's the point of massive wind farms and fields of Chinese built solar panels if they're not connected to the national grid and we're paying energy companies compensation to turn them off? I wish Ed Milliband would go back to starring in Wallace and Grommit movies

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Hands up everyone that hates this government. 😂

I am not one of life’s haters.

But, I am disappointed, underwhelmed and flipping frustrated with the current government, and the opposition parties are pretty dire as well.

I don’t really think that many people expected Labour to come good on election promises. They are liars and incompetents who are not fit to run a raffle never mind a country.

Never has any government kept it's manifesto promises.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Hands up everyone that hates this government. 😂

I do not hate this government, but I am exasperated beyond belief by this current administration , which is something entirely different.

They are cloth-eared, casual, slap dash and seem unable to learn from their mistakes. Most of their problems are self-induced, like the two mentioned in my OP and Rachel Reeves current problems (there is a separate thread on this).

What people voted for in the last election was an efficient well-organised Labour government that would start addressing the issues they were elected to deal with, What we have got is a shambles of mistakes small and large. That is not what anyone voted for.

Houses here are going up and up all the time. There is a huge demand because of all the new people coming to live here. I would have thought it would be the same in the UK to hear the discussions about all the people arriving from everywhere ? Rentals are impossibly high, too, for the same reason. I have been following the market because of a member of our family buying a house for the first time. He has finally purchased one but it hasn’t been easy.

I think we will soon see a slump.
Landlords will be trying to get rid of property and invest their assets elsewhere. Some houses should be condemned by the look of them on tv; the must have been very shoddily built.

You're right Maisie make houses cheaper for the bottom of the ladder.