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Will the Israeli government be investigated for war crimes?

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foxie48 Fri 31-Oct-25 07:48:31

"A classified report by a U.S. government watchdog has found that Israeli military units committed “many hundreds” of potential violations of U.S. human rights law in the Gaza Strip that would take the State Department “multiple years” to review, according to two U.S. officials who relayed the details to The Washington Post.

The findings by the State Department’s Office of Inspector General mark the first time a U.S. government report has acknowledged the scale of Israeli actions in Gaza that fall under the purview of Leahy Laws, the landmark legislation that bars U.S. security assistance to foreign military units credibly accused of gross human rights abuses.

U.S. officials, who discussed details of the report on the condition of anonymity because the contents were classified, said the watchdog findings raised doubts about the prospects for accountability for Israel’s actions given the large backlog of incidents and the nature of the review process, which is deferential to the Israel Defense Forces."

Washington Post 31.10.25

The above was taken from today's Washington Post. tbh I don't think Netanyahu or anyone else will be properly investigated, what do you think?

Maremia Mon 10-Nov-25 09:32:55

Programme on TV tonight which might be of interest.

Maremia Thu 06-Nov-25 12:18:10

If the Israeli Government wants unbiased reporting, then let international media teams into the areas, with protection from both Hamas and the IDF.

Maremia Thu 06-Nov-25 12:15:57

No, I think the problem is the violence of the Settlers in the West Bank. The IDF not preventing these unlawful attacks. Instead, preventing an ambulance attending an injured person. That's a real problem.

AGAA4 Thu 06-Nov-25 12:13:19

The BBC have reported fairly on the war in Gaza. Their views are very similar to many news outlets.
Nobody can dispute the numbers of Palestinians killed or that their infrastructure has been razed to
the ground.
I understand that pro Israel supporters do not want some of the news coming out of Gaza but as most countries now are not happy with the way Israel has behaved and all have different news channels then the same conclusions have been drawn.

Oreo Thu 06-Nov-25 11:19:33

AGAA4

No journalists are trusted as they will show a balanced view and Israel don't want that. Why do you think no journalists have been allowed into Gaza till now? If they had nothing to hide then they would welcome journalists.

The BBC haven’t been balanced, that’s the problem.

Maremia Thu 06-Nov-25 10:30:14

And the reason for stopping the ambulance?

AGAA4 Thu 06-Nov-25 10:27:12

No journalists are trusted as they will show a balanced view and Israel don't want that. Why do you think no journalists have been allowed into Gaza till now? If they had nothing to hide then they would welcome journalists.

Anniebach Thu 06-Nov-25 10:14:15

Thank you, after the infamous documentary and the filming of “kill the IDF by BBC the BBC are not trusted ?

AGAA4 Thu 06-Nov-25 10:06:02

Anniebach

BBC have been allowed in Gaza , will they use the same alleged witness in their documentary re Gaza, he was son of a Hamas official

The BBC reporter is being escorted round by the IDF. She is not allowed to speak to Palestinians and only allowed in places the IDF are willing to show.
She will only be allowed to see things from the Israel point of view which is still censorship.

Anniebach Thu 06-Nov-25 09:47:49

A documentary made by the BBC which they rapidly removed and they apologised for, surely not
Sigh

Oreo Thu 06-Nov-25 09:46:22

I have said many times that the settlements in the West Bank are wrong to be there, said it on all the threads about Israel.
No government, especially in times of war does everything right either but BN and his government were between a rock and a hard place after hamas decided to invade, torture and murder and take hostages.

CariadAgain Thu 06-Nov-25 09:38:33

One wonders if Netanyahu and his government can ever ever do any wrong in some peoples eyes. Presumably the settlers can also "do no wrong"....

#sighs

Oreo Thu 06-Nov-25 09:31:57

The BBC are under fire regarding their Arabic ‘arm’ for piecing together reports with clever editing and pro hamas stance in some cases and in overall anti Israel reporting.
Not before time!

Anniebach Thu 06-Nov-25 09:28:15

BBC have been allowed in Gaza , will they use the same alleged witness in their documentary re Gaza, he was son of a Hamas official

Oreo Thu 06-Nov-25 09:05:34

All supposition about the IDF and ambulances.

AGAA4 Thu 06-Nov-25 09:02:20

Delaying ambulances is a tactic used by the IDF. Keeping ambulances waiting at checkpoints so they can't get through to the injured and then forcing them to take a circuitous route to a hospital.

Maremia Thu 06-Nov-25 08:51:45

No excuse ever for delaying that ambulance.

CariadAgain Thu 06-Nov-25 08:50:09

Looks like they're after Thailand as well - bit by tiny bit...using locals as "front people" to buy this bit, buy that bit and so on .....and the Thais are trying to find ways to stop them...

Oreo Wed 05-Nov-25 19:35:09

Wyllow3

It's like pressing a button. One mentions something appalling, and up pops the predictable.

Oreo, has it not occurred in your relies that the IDF and the Settlers

*Should not even be there at all!*

I could actually say the same of your replies or anyone else but am too polite.
We don’t know what he was doing or his friends, they were a group or they wouldn’t have been there to carry him back.
That’s it isn’t it, none of us know.
I have always agreed that the settlers shouldn’t be there but the IDF are there a lot as the West Bank is full of dissident groups that the ruling authority can’t deal with on their own.If you didn’t realise this then you can read up on it.

Oreo Wed 05-Nov-25 19:29:47

Maremia

Meanwhile exclusive gated communities a foreign land?
Great for some. They say Cyprus is beautiful.

Cyprus is lovely, I want to go back for a holiday sometime.There are many retired people living there including Brits and Israelis.Why not?

Smileless2012 Wed 05-Nov-25 19:25:20

Presumably had this 18 year old been carrying a weapon, a hand grenade or something that would have led this 'soldier' to believe that he was a threat to his the soldier's life, this would have been revealed.

Why was the ambulance delayed? Has any kind of an explanation been given by the Israeli authorities; have they said there'll be one of those investigations that never seem to materialise?

CariadAgain Wed 05-Nov-25 17:18:00

That last sentence of mine got a bit jumbled - but you get my drift.

Whatever level people are trying to nick land at - be it a bit of neighbours garden or a whole darn country - if you witness a jutting jaw/pugnacious look in their eyes and a certain underlying hesitancy when they assert it's theirs really = they know they're lying. I've watched this down at a personal level - when adjacent neighbours stole a bit of my garden. I could hear the lies/see the agressive jutting jaw/witness the trespassing. It's the same tactics - whether the land is a small bit or a whole country = they are lying and they do know they are.

CariadAgain Wed 05-Nov-25 17:14:38

Wyllow - quite!

They can insist until they're blue in the face that it's theirs....a book promised it to them 3,000 years ago etc etc - but it is not theirs....however much they keep insisting.

Someone who knows something most definitely really IS theirs/has been from Year Dot etc is too confident/well aware that it really is theirs to feel the need to act bullyboy and keep insisting (against all evidence) that it really is theirs.

If someone is insisting that land is theirs (when they know it isnt) they do not get all agressive about it/willing to say or do anything to back that claim they're making.

Wyllow3 Wed 05-Nov-25 16:57:56

It's like pressing a button. One mentions something appalling, and up pops the predictable.

Oreo, has it not occurred in your relies that the IDF and the Settlers

Should not even be there at all!

CariadAgain Wed 05-Nov-25 16:46:49

a. Does it matter what he was doing in what is his country - but not theirs? It sounded a perfectly legit reason to go outside in one's own country to me. It's HIS own country at that...so it's nowt to do with the IDF.

b. The "they would say that wouldnt they" argument most certainly wouldnt apply to a lot - eg a photo I saw of a young boy who looked about 6 years old this morning and was just "hanging around" by the look of it - but two IDF soldiers were clearly telling him to move on.

It is the Palestinians own country - every part of it (be it West Bank, Gaza or the main section) - but it is theirs by rights and therefore they do have every right to go wherever they decide they will whenever they decide they will.

At a personal level - I'd take great exception to my neighbours trying to tell me what I could and couldnt do in my own garden and when - and I've had to make that fact crystal clear on more than one occasion. "It's my garden - I can do what I please and when I please. It's my garden = keep the ** out of it". They've had to learn that I mean business - though at least they can't physically harm me or the police would be the next people they'd see.

I'm still struggling to get my head round the Palestinians being told what they can do/when/where in their own darn country - ie Palestine. It's quite a thought to realise just how I'd have had to live on my own property if that property was Palestine instead of Britain..(ie at risk all the time - just from leading a normal life and refusing to be restricted).

It would be interesting to know what the results would be if a straw poll was done here on the question of "If you are British and in Britain and someone else of another nationality tried to restrict your life/put you at risk etc = what would you do?"