Artols
His "Defund the Police" comments were in 2023 during Black Lives Matter.
NYC paid over 114 million ($114,586,723) settling lawsuits against the NYPD that year for heavy handed and corrupt and dodgy tactics.
Making arrests of "suspected prostitutes" for example, which involved the drive to the precinct, questioning, and paperwork, could earn officers significant overtime hours. One former sergeant was quoted saying, "You arrest 10 girls, now the whole team's making eight hours of overtime."...
Overtime pay (as a financial incentive for officers) led to mass arrests (of sex workers and clients, often with questionable evidence) as this was "easy overtime" when compared with more "serious" crime work and so then lawsuits (for false arrest) - then lots
more costs (millions in settlements.)
The stamping out of this can't be a bad thing. Let them do the job they joined to do.
Yes, his language was intemperate - but he has repeatedly apologised since (including direcly to police) and explained how he would proceed.
- Financial reasons (higher salaries and better pension benefits elsewhere)
- Quality of life (high cost of living in NYC)
- Pressure of mandatory overtime
- Increased public and Political scrutiny.
- Other areas (eg Houston) actively recruiting NYPD officers to fill their ranks.
... these are existing reasons why NYPD staff are already leaving.
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Mamdani elected New York Mayor
(244 Posts)Just thought it should be acknowledged here.
I'm hoping, for the sake of America that this is the start of something better for both the Democrats and the ordinary people..
You still haven't been able to support your claim of anti-semitism, and so I may now believe that other of your claims might also be without support.
Great post IOMGran
Oreo
Nobody has said they watch Fox, let alone ‘a lot of it’ so why continue stirring the pot about this?
We can just disagree IOMGran
London does have much violence and stabbings doesn’t it?
Well relative to the rest of the UK no. What's happening with violent crime in London, which is a massive city and has all the issues big cities have? Let's do an analysis.
Long-term decline or stability in early 2000s.
Rising violent crime since mid-2010s, over 30% increase in ten years.
Homicides peaked around 2017/18, slightly declined recently.
Knife crime and some violent offenses show recent declines.
London’s violent crime rate still below UK average.
Police funding and numbers fell in 2010s; now increasing again.
Basically we now have a government which is trying to address the systematic defunding of the police and the CJS since 2010. I was doing work for the CPS though out all that time and we produced systems that streamlined processes and enabled them to get more with fewer people. There comes a point where you simply cannot cut anymore without affecting core services, hence the 3 year backlog in the court system for women seeking justice for violent crime. All brought to us by the so called party of law and order. I know the facts, I was there, I saw the data.
Didn't see your post IOMgran when writing mine.
God I hate that misinformation nonsense, it is just another way of saying you people are stupid because of the way you voted. What it means is they like democracy when it goes their way, I mean dont we all.
Galaxy
God I hate that misinformation nonsense, it is just another way of saying you people are stupid because of the way you voted. What it means is they like democracy when it goes their way, I mean dont we all.
No, it means that you are basing your views of premises that are biased and skewed. If you love democracy you should try to dig deeper.
And I should add some 'news' is flat out lies. Look at the rancid stuff Trump spews out daily on his Truth Social site. Very little survives a basic fact check.
As Allah wills it.
The stats with regard to women and violent crime have remained the same for a long time, particularly in regard to partner violence, the colour of government has had no impact that in decades as far as I am aware.
What press do I read iomgran?
I just looked up the stats for knife crime in London, it’s horrifying and far worse than I realised.
And far from what you have written in your above post IOMGran
Galaxy
What press do I read iomgran?
I get news from all over, Reuters, BlueSky gives pointers from experts o info, BBC World Service can be interesting, I skim the Guardian, I look at the Mail, although I don't know who most of their celebs are, like to know what's exercising that demographic, I am on Facebook for local news, our friends around the world tell us what's going on with them, I use perplexity AI to quickly fact check and go back to sources. I read a lot of scientific papers, started in 2020, as I wanted to understand the science. Always check sources and get corroboration. Where do you get yours?
Oreo
I just looked up the stats for knife crime in London, it’s horrifying and far worse than I realised.
And far from what you have written in your above post IOMGran
Did you check previous years? Did you check other cities? Did you cherry pick the bits that validated what you want to be the case? Post your sources and I will analyse them.
Why the aggressive questioning about news sources? Are we in Court?
Nobody should assume anything about posters lives and what they do or don’t do.
Oreo
Why the aggressive questioning about news sources? Are we in Court?
Nobody should assume anything about posters lives and what they do or don’t do.
Oh I see you don't like being questioned. I wonder why. Aggression is only in your head. Some want facts and the truth.
I just googled knife crime in London, which I, you, and other posters on this thread are able to do.
Look it up yourself and enjoy analysing.
What the misinformation trope generally means is 'you' are reading sources I don't like. It is exhausting.
Sadly, the aggression on this thread is certainly not in my head but coming in this particular instance from you.You did say a few pages back that you were feeling passive aggressive today or some such.
We all have some sadness or ill health in our lives or those of our families but shouldn’t seek to take that out on real people on forums.
Galaxy
What the misinformation trope generally means is 'you' are reading sources I don't like. It is exhausting.
Isn’t it tho?
I hate to say this, but really, what is the point of Gransnet after all. Every time I post on here nobody takes me seriously. I find most responses to my posts absolutely insulting. Not that I care, But I know what I know. Please, let common sense prevail.
Oreo
I just googled knife crime in London, which I, you, and other posters on this thread are able to do.
Look it up yourself and enjoy analysing.
Knife crime in London has risen substantially since the mid-20th century, peaking recently.
London has the highest knife crime rates in the UK, several times higher than national averages.
Nationally, knife crime has also grown but remains less concentrated than in London.
Sociological factors such as gang activity, drug markets, and urban density influence these trends.
Recent policy efforts persist in trying to reverse the upward trajectory.
In context of general serious violent crime.
Both knife crime and general serious violence have risen notably in London since mid-20th century.
Serious violence includes but is not limited to knife crime; the latter is an important subset.
London rates of serious violence are several times higher than national averages, similar pattern to knife crime.
Trends over the last 20 years show similar upward trajectories with some recent stabilization.
Sociological, geographic, and policing factors impact these crime types similarly but not identically.
Overall, knife crime trends parallel serious violence trends but represent a specific and particularly concerning part of the broader violent crime picture in London.
The last 12 months we have a government that wants to fund this issue to be sorted, and there are encouraging early data points.
Having lived in London crime is very much a postcode thing. The poor and black are definitely more affected by gangs and perpetrate and are victims to knife crime disproportionately.
The statement that London’s violent crime rate is below the UK average can seem counterintuitive but is explained by how crime rates are measured and reported:
1. **Population and Crime Rate Calculations**: Crime rates are typically calculated as the number of crimes per 1,000 or 10,000 people. London’s rate of violent crime per capita is often compared against averages across all of England and Wales, including many smaller towns and rural areas where crime rates (especially violent crime) are traditionally very low.
2. **Variation in Types of Violent Crime**: London experiences high rates of some types of violent crime, particularly knife crime and some assaults. However, other forms of serious violence like gun crime are rare in most parts of the UK outside London. Conversely, some regions outside London report higher rates of other violent crimes like domestic violence or alcohol-related assaults.
3. **Data Grouping Differences by Police Areas**: The UK average includes areas with very high crime rates such as parts of Northern England and major cities like Manchester, which can push the national average upward. But London itself has a very large, diverse population, including many lower crime boroughs that bring down the average violent crime rate compared to the UK average, which encompasses smaller towns with lower or variable crime.
4. **Reporting and Policing Factors**: London’s policing resources, crime prevention initiatives, and public awareness of violent crime lead to higher reporting rates of certain crimes like knife possession but also active policing to reduce violent crime. Different areas may have variations in crime reporting and recording standards that influence rates.
5. **Recent Data Nuances**: In some recent official statistics, London’s total violent crime rate was reported as lower than the national average due to methodology, population nuances, and crime category classifications. However, when focusing narrowly on serious violence or knife crime, London’s rates remain among the highest nationally.[1][2][3][4]
In essence, London’s overall violent crime rate per capita being below the UK average reflects the full spectrum of violence measured across all UK areas, with London’s unique social dynamics and population scale balancing out very high violence concentrations in some inner-city boroughs.
[1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London)
[2](https://www.statista.com/statistics/380963/london-crime-rate/)
[3](https://www.statista.com/statistics/863276/violent-crime-in-london/)
[4](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandc
Arto1s
I hate to say this, but really, what is the point of Gransnet after all. Every time I post on here nobody takes me seriously. I find most responses to my posts absolutely insulting. Not that I care, But I know what I know. Please, let common sense prevail.
Sorry? You post something, and people disagree with you? Oh the horror!! What is this common sense thing then?
Oreo
Galaxy
What the misinformation trope generally means is 'you' are reading sources I don't like. It is exhausting.
Isn’t it tho?
So OK, where do you get your news from? I showed you mine.
On the 10pm news last week (both BBC and ITV) they had an item on
London is the mobile phone snatching/stealing capitol of the world
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