The BBC. Bias is one thing. Lies and manipulation of facts entirely different.

Rosie51

MaizieD

keepingquiet

I'm not getting this? Can someone tell me what it's about?

No idea...

Shall we leave them to it?

If you read the link I've given you can find out, but maybe you're just not interested?

There was no link given until after I posted and I've only just returned to this thread.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I think it’s time to abolish the licence fee and make it compete for business.

There is bias in all news broadcasts for various reasons. Have you thought it might be your bias in this or other cases?

It appears you accept as fact what is put out by GB News and therefore conclude that the BBC must be biased. It could be the other way round, although from your previous posts it doesn’t seem that you would accept that. It could also be that there is some bias on each channel.

Btw I don’t watch BBC news. Channel 4 for me.

I think it very much depends on a person’s own bias. If the BBC were accused of being pro Israel for splicing what someone opposed to Netanyahu had said some in high dudgeon now would promptly shut up. And tbh even if they spliced what Trump said it doesn’t take away from the man’s incitement to violence when they attacked Capitol Hill.
The BBC shouldn’t have done it but I doubt very much it detracted from the truth of the matter.
If people feel so incensed they can stop watching the BBC until of course the BBC suit their own particular bias, then you can bet they’ll start watching again.

Galaxy

Er quite frequently. Their reporting of male criminals as females is fairly regular. Flat earth stuff.

Must admit that really gets to me.

I find myself shouting at the TV, women do not have a penis (or worse if I am alone)

The BBC is supposed to be impartial

Doctoring someone's speech, the actual words spoken, by splicing them with words spoken elsewhere, is disgraceful, however unpleasant the speaker and the circumstances.

The belief that he tells lies is immaterial
The BBC should not, under any circumstances.

Er quite frequently. Their reporting of male criminals as females is fairly regular. Flat earth stuff.

We in the UK don’t pay Trump £169 per year. For ‘bias’ and downright splicing of material to prevent ‘an alternative’ viewpoint.

Just saying.

How often have they 'told lies'?
All the time, like Trump?

I would have at one stage hoped that the BBC was of a higher standard than Trump, but obviously I don't hold that viewpoint now.

Well then, if that's the criteria, falsifying the news, then Trump is more tarnished than the BBC
Or does it depend on who is doing the lying?
If you condemn the BBC, for fake news, then logically, you must also condemn Trump, bigly.

StripeyGran

Take it easy FGT.

Never mind.

Things come and go,

You don't mind that the BBC and its world reputation can be tarnished and brought into disrepute?

When I catch someone lying or trying to manipulate me I tend to be very wary of them in all situations. Deceptive editing is lying.

Galaxy

Sorry are we now saying it is ok for the BBC to manipulate reporting? How are they any different to Trump if that is the case. It isn't just about Trump anyway, the bias allegedly covers various issues including their reporting of women's rights ( no surprise there).

Apparently so Galaxy provided they manipulate reporting about people or situations we dislike or disapprove of. The fact that Trump condemns himself out of his own mouth without the need to deceptively 'gild the lily' seems not to matter.

Deception is deception and can only engender suspicion of the organisation and other areas where similar practice may have been employed.

Take it easy FGT.

Never mind.

Things come and go,

The BBC brand is tarnished now. Not to be forgotten that Marianna Spring was caught lying on her CV. Clearly, she didn't ‘Verify’ her own work.

Sorry are we now saying it is ok for the BBC to manipulate reporting? How are they any different to Trump if that is the case. It isn't just about Trump anyway, the bias allegedly covers various issues including their reporting of women's rights ( no surprise there).

Oh dear.

BBC forced to withdraw ‘thoroughly wrong’ racism allegations
Corporation’s ‘Verify’ service published a report with ‘multiple serious editorial problems’, leaked internal memo finds.

It’s not just about Trump!
It’s the bias of the BBC writ large (and found out).
A whistleblower came forward to the embarrassment of the BBC.

If the bbc can lie about the late queen nobody is safe.

www.theguardian.com/media/2007/oct/06/themonarchy.bbc

Oh what a load of nonsense. Trump? Really?

The hater of women, disabled people, people of colour.

What on earth is wrong with people who value his contribution at all?

Rosie51

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgzkyk7knzo

If anyone wants to know. It's been quite prominently discussed in some areas.

Just not by the BBC! 😂
Surprised?
No.

Did he say the words that have been reported?
Did he do anything to stop the riot?
Was he watching it unfold on TV?
Did he ignore his VP Mike Pence's please for help against actual harm?

Thanks for the link Rosie51 I read the report and I agree that it is very concerning that the BBC which is supposed to be truthful and unbiased and openly prides itself on being so, has been shown to distort facts.

However, the report does not in any way alter my opinion of Donald Trump, I still think he is a dangerous lunatic and I still think the Israeli army is guilty of crimes against humanity.

Perhaps I should add that I think Hamas are also guilty of crimes against humanity and that the suffering of the Israelis has been downplayed in the media generally.

MayBee70 is anyone defending Trump over the riots and his subsequent pardons? The BBC's deceptive editing that spliced two sentences together that were 50 minutes apart is not truthful or honourable. Trump doesn't need his words (or actions) manipulated to show him for what he is, which many of us despise. The BBC have been exposed in this case, how many other times has an editor taken it upon themself to manipulate and lie? Would you feel differently if it was someone you admired whose words had been similarly manipulated to say what they hadn't?

People died that day. And Trump has let the perpetrators out of prison. So, to be honest, I don’t think anyone should defend him over this. He could have stopped it happening and he didn’t. Nothing about his character or anything he has done since makes me think he didn’t want it to happen.