New asylum rules

Are pro-asylum seeker supporters willingly offering to welcome such persons to share their homes?

Thought not........

You are wrong

It depends on the pro asylum seekers. I know many Quakers, and other Christians and humanists who do offer a place in their homes for the genuine seekers, who work as volunteers to support them, who run centres for asylum seekers along with local homeless people. For many thats as important as a roof over their heads, as it offers guidance, English lessons, and so on.

Those who do the view that many did at the time of the people seeking help in the Ukraine.

People fleeing the Sudan are often fleeing far more than many coming from The Ukraine. I know of a young man whose parents had their head chopped off with machetes and managed to get out before they came for him and his brother.

I applaud thes rules but they do not go far enough. First we need to get rid of the ECHR and all the outdated migrant agreements. Then deny all the human rights lawyers access to public funds. If they are so concerned let them work pro bono.

Taking jewellery - the idea makes me feel sick. It reminds me of what happened in Poland and Germany during World War 2. People will start hiding jewellery in body cavities - so are they going to strip search and violate people too ?

This is long overdue but I can't imagine Starmer will approve. It doesn't fit with his plans for this country.

Again, jewellery and wedding rings will NOT be removed.

Well, if a Labour politician is saying the asylum system is ‘out of control’ then there’s hope something will be done.
Just have to wait and see.

mum2three

This is long overdue but I can't imagine Starmer will approve. It doesn't fit with his plans for this country.

Starmer appointed Mahmood because of his commitment to reducing illegal immigration, to speeding up and simplifying the assessment process.

Spinnaker, I understand that the ECHR overturned only a handful of cases presented to them - thirteen is the number, I believe.
And as to the " well, would you take these people into your homes " is a little disingenuous.
I am an advocate of free speech, but would not give Me Andrew Tate a place in my home.

.. correction Mr Andrew Tate.

Denmark has ECHR and has similar policies, so can be worked with. My next door neighbour had an asylum seeker living with him for years - it took 10 YEARS for his claim to be granted. After so many years of not working he still hasn't got a job, we think past trauma and the years of living on the margins he is virtually unemployable. Charming and humble young man but his life has been awful.

Chocolatelovinggran

Spinnaker, I understand that the ECHR overturned only a handful of cases presented to them - thirteen is the number, I believe.
And as to the " well, would you take these people into your homes " is a little disingenuous.
I am an advocate of free speech, but would not give Me Andrew Tate a place in my home.

Just to clarify the comment about taking these people into your homes wasn't from me. It came from another poster upthread

Kandinsky

I admire her for trying to tackle this problem, but too many snowflakes in this country who’ll try and stop her at every turn.
Happens all the time.

Spot on. She has her work cut out with the red tape and human rights lawyers but I, for one, hopes she succeeds. We cannot continue like this.

windmill1

Are pro-asylum seeker supporters willingly offering to welcome such persons to share their homes?

Thought not........

Yawn. This comes up over and over again.

I am not pro asylum seeker. I am pro humanity.

You don't know me and you don't know what I have done for years.

these people

Indeed ,they are people.

StripeyGran

windmill1

Are pro-asylum seeker supporters willingly offering to welcome such persons to share their homes?

Thought not........

Yawn. This comes up over and over again.

I am not pro asylum seeker. I am pro humanity.

You don't know me and you don't know what I have done for years.

That sounds intriguing! What have you done for years?

Spinnaker

It'll never happen while we're hamstrung by ECHR. Just wish this/previous governments would grow some balls regarding this issue.

The ECHR was the brainchild of Winston Churchill after the war and was mostly written by British civil servants. I think Winnie had a very good idea of the protection it would afford us all. Like the BBC, let's not throw away all our institutions eh? They are there for good reasons.

StripeyGran

Kandinsky

I admire her for trying to tackle this problem, but too many snowflakes in this country who’ll try and stop her at every turn.
Happens all the time.

Care to elaborate? Who are these ( so called ) snowflakes?

Taking jewelry will go down well with some I suppose.

Why stop at jewelry, there is hair too, could make wigs or stuffing for furniture.

IOMGran

StripeyGran

Kandinsky

I admire her for trying to tackle this problem, but too many snowflakes in this country who’ll try and stop her at every turn.
Happens all the time.

Care to elaborate? Who are these ( so called ) snowflakes?

Taking jewelry will go down well with some I suppose.

Why stop at jewelry, there is hair too, could make wigs or stuffing for furniture.

That was my thought - it made me feel very queasy indeed.

Lord Dubs - who came to the U.K. via the kinder transport said that he is extremely depressed by it all.

I couldn’t agree more.

Meandrogrog

StripeyGran

windmill1

Are pro-asylum seeker supporters willingly offering to welcome such persons to share their homes?

Thought not........

Yawn. This comes up over and over again.

I am not pro asylum seeker. I am pro humanity.

You don't know me and you don't know what I have done for years.

That sounds intriguing! What have you done for years?

A lot, but obviously I am not going to expose myself here. I will be accused of al sorts of things including virtue signaling.

The jewellery referred to is not quite personal jewellery; it represents the family wealth, usually in the form of gold from dowries, and spends most of its life in very secure vaults, only appearing on occasions such as weddings.
When Indian weddings developed into the enormous affairs they are today there was a sudden spate of burglaries from Indian homes and the value of the jewellery stolen was astonishing, to the police and to the taxman.
The jewellery was collected from the vault the night before the wedding, to be returned the day after; thieves spotted an opportunity and families lost their entire, undeclared wealth at a stroke.

So it's those pesky Indians with their gold that is the problem here?

Apologies, Spinnaker.

I wonder if the Indian family who live in a flat over our local PO have vaults full of gold?
A very silly and irrelevant comment regarding how some wealthy people keep their wealth. Am pretty sure the taxman was not surprised after dealing with wealthy people in the UK on a regular basis, with our higher ups squirrelling their wealth offshore.