The Women's Institute is to revert to being an Institute for Women

Nanananabatman

My ex would not want to enter a space for women, which is why you don’t see trans men joining the wi. Before the change in the law they would not have been legally allowed to and now however they are. And the reason I left my ex was because they were controlling and abusive so yes I would claim that they had negative male traits and did not in any way act feminine and you would never think they were a woman if you saw them or interacted with them. Also I’ve never heard the term TRA before what does it mean? I don’t think I’m using trans men as a tool here, I am just pointing out that the rates are about 50/50 and I don’t see how legally a person who has been on testosterone treatment and identifies as male has more rights to a women’s space than a trans woman?

Don’t you really?
The trans man is actually a woman who wants to live her life as a man, so she really wouldn’t want to join an all womens group.
But, that being said, she is still a woman and could insist on joining the WI or using the womens loos or changing rooms or anything else.A trans women, being actually a man, cannot.

I know the ruling has made life more difficult for the quiet trans woman who has been using the ladies loo with no problems, but the vociferous trans lobby who want to take over all women’s spaces not just loos have caused this! They want to be in women’s prisons and have all the rights of women who were born female.Well now they can’t….and most women are relieved.

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Don’t use the term cis women then…use the term woman or natal woman then we are all clear.

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It’s what trans people use isn’t it?
You are welcome here as anything, this isn’t a women’s forum specifically btw and you are just as welcome as gay or trans come to that.

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I don’t think that as a gay woman you have anything to fear by using women’s loos or changing rooms or anything else.

The terms cis and terfs are used by the trans lobby.

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No no name calling at all.

Nanananabatman

This feels very restrictive and like your making assumptions about me. To all the people who said they never saw it impact people who arent trans here you go! I am being called trans when I’ve stated I’m born female and facing aggression about it and being asked to change my behaviour or have my gender questioned, and you can’t say it’s based on appearance because nobody has seen me

Untrue.
There’s nothing to say on here that you have to change behaviour or the way you look or anything else.As a gay woman you have access to all the women’s spaces that you have always had access to.The ruling on women being called women and having safe spaces just for them hasn’t changed for you.

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I am a gender critical feminist.

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Nanananabatman

Most lgbtqia+ people will use the word terf while understanding they aren’t feminist and the f is fascism

Sigh.

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Yes we know we are all far right. This doesn't work anymore, it isnt 2016.

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Nanananabatman

I can tell as you are criticising my gender

You say you are a woman, who happens to be gay. Therefore no criticism of gender or anything else.Gay people have the same rights as heterosexual people.
Your beef seems to be about trans women ( men) who now can’t access women’s spaces.