Meghan Markle’s father, Thomas, is in intensive care seriously ill.

I really do wonder what their children will make of all this when they reach an age of understanding!
Will they be completely understanding of their parents' reasons for keeping them away from their relatives, especially their first cousins??
My mother did not like her older sister and bad mouthed her at every opportunity. When I grew up and got to know her without my mother's presence, I realised she was lovely and Mum had just been very jealous of her.
She effectively prevented me having a relationship with her and her family which was wrong of her!

I don’t think it’s two wrongs Casdon.

There isn’t a right or wrong of living off the media. It’s a matter of personal choice and taste. I’d hate it but others enjoy being in the limelight and decide to make their living that way.

So I wouldn’t say it’s ok for one person and not another. That’s what I don’t get.

When someone seeks out publicity as relentlessly as Meghan Markle her words and actions and behaviour are equally relentlessly exposed. We are all entitled to form opinions, which may crystalise into facts based on successive actions.

Meghan's behaviour towards her father and extended family has been (an excellent description) hard-hearted, beginning with their exclusion from her wedding and her failure to introduce her father to his prospective son-in-law. Also refusing to allow him to see his grandchildren, and restricting access for King Charles.

Lathyrus3

Well, I expect like Harry and Meghan, he is using the media coverage to pay the bills.

It’s what celebrities and their connections do in this financially driven media age.

So either it’s a thing you’re ok with/enjoy or it’s a thing you disapprove of/deplore.

What I don’t understand is the posters on here saying he shouldn’t involve the media when Harry and Meghan are all about the media

They actively seek a media presence in their lives. They spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to employ people to make sure they are kept in the media.

So I can’t think why anyone would think that the media should leave them alone. It’s the last thing they want!
Or why her father shouldn’t use the media too. Why just them?

I don’t get the ok for them but not for him.

When do two wrongs make a right though Lathyrus? I don’t deny Meghan’s running to the media, or defend it. It is however equally abhorrent when members of her family do it, particularly in circumstances like this, and I’m surprised that anybody tries to justify it. There is no dignity in their actions, or this thread.

Harry has been using the media to tell the world of his grief

Well, I expect like Harry and Meghan, he is using the media coverage to pay the bills.

It’s what celebrities and their connections do in this financially driven media age.

So either it’s a thing you’re ok with/enjoy or it’s a thing you disapprove of/deplore.

What I don’t understand is the posters on here saying he shouldn’t involve the media when Harry and Meghan are all about the media

They actively seek a media presence in their lives. They spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to employ people to make sure they are kept in the media.

So I can’t think why anyone would think that the media should leave them alone. It’s the last thing they want!
Or why her father shouldn’t use the media too. Why just them?

I don’t get the ok for them but not for him.

I think Meghan Markle is in a very difficult situation here.
This is the time when she absolutely must take advice and follow through.
Harry is a weak, spoilt man...so he will not know what to do at all.
What a mess these two are in!

Sparklefizz

Wyllow3

The way some of the family are behaving shows, sadly just how toxic matters are in the family. I feel that at least partly Thomas and some of the family are playing manipulative power hungry ones, to "bring her down".

GN's, *this is not love*

The apple doesn't fall far .......

No one is saying Meghan is an "innocent" in all this, but both she and Harry come from really tough backgrounds, and as far as I can see are making good on that with their own children.

None of us are perfect and how can we honestly say what we would do given an equivalent situation in our own lives?

Maybe - perhaps - some of the GN's who are saying she should, as a moral imperative, go:

have not faced estrangement and the hatred sometimes in these situations, nor the pressures and manipulations. I have had enough of those in my life (fortunately not at all from my direct family), but via a marriage with coercive control and other of his family's involvement:

To know it is far, far from simple, and thank goodness was not played out in the public eye.

Wyllow3

The way some of the family are behaving shows, sadly just how toxic matters are in the family. I feel that at least partly Thomas and some of the family are playing manipulative power hungry ones, to "bring her down".

GN's, *this is not love*

The apple doesn't fall far .......

The way some of the family are behaving shows, sadly just how toxic matters are in the family. I feel that at least partly Thomas and some of the family are playing manipulative power hungry ones, to "bring her down".

GN's, this is not love

You have the advantage Iam my criticism of the daughter is caused by her lies, I haven’t heard the father say anything from his hospital bed,

Yes: I think he - or/and members of the family publicising this is manipulative in the worst way.

They should have kept quiet and used back channels to try and arrange a private visit - maybe just Meghan initially - it might have worked: maybe with someone who is skilled in managing these situations there to help anything left of genuine love come out

She is publicity hungry and "me" centred, but so are many people.

We truly, genuinely dont know what happened in her childhood. Despite all the publicity, H and M they have not involved their children in the media circus, there is no evidence they are not good enough parents.

This sad family rift should not be the subject of media speculation and seen as an opportunity for villification. It is not civilised or pleasant.
The harsh judgements are cruel and irrelevant.
If you happen to dislike someone then that is fine ... we can't like everyone. But these people people are entirely irrelevant to our lives. They are not politicians or dictators who can influence out happiness. It is not appropriate for them to be subjected to this media barrage.

I agree Iam64, young children should not be taken to another country to see somebody in hospital who they have never met before, particularly with the media circus that would be attached, they would be frightened, and they have no experience of being in the public eye.

I don’t personally think this story should be in the media at all, it shoukd have been a private approach. Why the Markle family think courting the media is going to help Thomas Markle’s desire to see Meghan and children is beyond me - if I were her I think I’d be digging my heels in further to escape the circus..

Is he dying? many people lose a leg to disbetes !! Just saying

Good post Iam64 none of us know what went on in her childhood or even adulthood and it s just another ploy by maybe him, but certainly journalists to put another nail in her coffin, another go at her.

Grams2five

JenniferEccles

Poor man. Of course she should go and see him. She should be sitting by his bedside holding his hand and making her peace with him.

We all know she is a cold hearted woman but this is on a different level.

Why? When my once estranged in laws were sick my husband shouldn’t have gone and didn’t. He had no relationship ; and no desire to have one. He spent years in therapy unpacking the problems he has with them. Recovering from and healing from that relationship. Why should she be there holding his hand?

Mr Markle has been photographed in his hospital bed, the story line saying he’s pleading to see Meghan Harry and their children, he doesn’t want to die estranged.
In what universe is it ok to suggest small children should be flown across the world in these circumstances. Mr Markle’s behaviour is in no way going to encourage even minor steps to reconciliation.

Anniebach this is just nasty We all know she is a cold hearted woman but this is on a different level and I d call it out if it was about anybody the poster didn’t know diddly squit about
Just because you don’t like the woman doesn't mean you can call her something that you ve no idea is true or false if poster had said ‘in my opinion she is blah blah’ or even said ‘she seems to be ….’ But she didn’t she gave it as a fact which she has no idea is true or false and that’s what s wrong and you know that too 🫣

Did he give that statement or another family member

Her Father has now been pictured in his hospital bed with the headline that he wants to see her one more time and meet Harry and his grandchildren before he dies. Personally I don’t feel comfortable with this public display and can’t help thinking that he is courting publicity too. Surely the whole situation should be private.

Cutting your entire family dead when you meet someone rich and famous is not a good look.

Bet her team of spokespersons have gone into overdrive, knowing that whatever decision they make they will be punished for it.

Why is is an opinion of a tv celebrity from a poster hard hearted ,nasty , ? , opinions of celebrities is always given

Gosh JenniferEccles what a hard hearted post You know nothing about her or her relationship with her fathers very judgemental and nasty

JenniferEccles

Poor man. Of course she should go and see him. She should be sitting by his bedside holding his hand and making her peace with him.

We all know she is a cold hearted woman but this is on a different level.

Why? When my once estranged in laws were sick my husband shouldn’t have gone and didn’t. He had no relationship ; and no desire to have one. He spent years in therapy unpacking the problems he has with them. Recovering from and healing from that relationship. Why should she be there holding his hand?