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Tommy Robinson’s ‘put Christ back into Christmas’ message"

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Wyllow3 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:11:44

I honestly couldnt believe what I was reading, except it follows a US trend for Far Right attempts to do the same.

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/07/church-of-england-campaign-challenging-tommy-robinson-put-christ-back-into-christmas-message?fbclid=IwY2xjawOi2aRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETBRRlJaamg3azk1VEZHWjdHc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHoJp_m-Q2CWoLTNrxw8Ulo1PbD6iGQ3ZQ_tSXALujn68lWh-i-4WYDweMdnn_aem_gCwflvl9uuLiybICAOguWg

"The Church of England is to launch a poster campaign aimed at challenging the anti-migrant message of Tommy Robinson, whose “Unite the Kingdom” movement has urged its supporters to join a carols event next weekend to “put the Christ back into Christmas”.

The posters, which will go on display at bus stops, say “Christ has always been in Christmas” and “Outsiders welcome”. They will also be available for local churches to download and display over the festive period."

At a march organised by Unite the Kingdom in September there was a significant presence of Christian symbols, including wooden crosses and flags bearing Christian slogans, as well as chants of “Christ is king” and calls to defend “God, faith, family, homeland

Last week, Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, announced next weekend’s Christmas carol event at an undisclosed outdoor venue in central London. It would mark the beginning of “a new Christian revival in the UK – a moment to reclaim and celebrate our heritage, culture and Christian identity”.

I find this truly, truly chilling

You?

(Some Christian activists are planning a counter-event to protest at the far-right views of those organising the carol service)..(do read the rest of the article)

Grandmabatty Mon 08-Dec-25 07:36:21

Stephen Yaxley Lennon aka Tommy Robinson is a thug and a crook who is only in the news because the media push him. I wouldn't want to be associated with him.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Dec-25 07:58:04

imaround

I am watching the same playbook used in the US start to roll out there. Divide and conquer.

No one is taking anything away from Christmas. confused

Exactly so.

MaizieD Mon 08-Dec-25 07:59:46

Galaxy

But by the second post we have moved on to Reform voters.

I don’t think that you are naive enough to believe that followers of Yaxley Lennon aren’t Reform voters.

Iam64 Mon 08-Dec-25 08:00:22

I’m not chillled or scared of Tommy Laxley whatever attempting a Christian Crusade.

The Church of England has already responded well to this nonsense. Regular Church attendance continues to decline, as do the numbers of white British people who identify as Christian. I’ve long felt our society loses many positives as a result. There’s ample evidence that being part of a faith community supports mental health. There are many reasons this may be so.

MaizieD Mon 08-Dec-25 08:04:09

GrannyGravy13

Anniebach

Quote Smileless2012 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:56:29
Christ has never left the Christmas message. He is the Christmas message isn't he Annie because without him we wouldn't have it.

Yes, he is the message Smileless

Exactly 👏👏👏

The message that no-one takes any notice of….

Galaxy Mon 08-Dec-25 08:04:47

So we are deciding that reform voters shouldn't go to church. Count me out of that.

MaizieD Mon 08-Dec-25 08:08:45

mum2three

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

Did you not know that Islam worships the same god?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Dec-25 08:08:50

Galaxy

So we are deciding that reform voters shouldn't go to church. Count me out of that.

😄😄. Perhaps they will get the message about loving your fellow woman.

One can but hope

25Avalon Mon 08-Dec-25 08:17:10

King Richard fought in the Crusades to “free” Jerusalem from “the infidel”. He like countless others fought in the name of Christ. This is what Tommy Robinson and others are now jumping on the bandwagon on. I once read an interesting article whoever supported Christ would not carry his banner into war, - but we do.

foxie48 Mon 08-Dec-25 08:38:55

I'm British but I'm not a Christian. I do, however, believe in many aspects of Christian teaching eg Love thy neighbour. I particularly like the parable of the good Samaritan too. I wonder what aspects of Christianity Tommy Robinson adhers to?

GrannyGravy13 Mon 08-Dec-25 08:39:51

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Anniebach

Quote Smileless2012 Sun 07-Dec-25 22:56:29
Christ has never left the Christmas message. He is the Christmas message isn't he Annie because without him we wouldn't have it.

Yes, he is the message Smileless

Exactly 👏👏👏

The message that no-one takes any notice of….

That is rather disparaging to those with faith MaizieD

Maremia Mon 08-Dec-25 08:41:54

I wonder if the sermon will be in the style of the Reverend Budde?

fancythat Mon 08-Dec-25 08:42:26

MaizieD

mum2three

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

Did you not know that Islam worships the same god?

They have to believe in Jesus.
Not aware that they do.

To be saved, a person has to believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and repent of their sins[no need to list them for God, as he knows them already, and everyones' lists would be large!].

MaizieD Mon 08-Dec-25 08:55:37

fancythat

MaizieD

mum2three

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

Did you not know that Islam worships the same god?

They have to believe in Jesus.
Not aware that they do.

To be saved, a person has to believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and repent of their sins[no need to list them for God, as he knows them already, and everyones' lists would be large!].

Jews worship the same god, too.
They don’t acknowledge Jesus, either

We’re fine about them, but dislike muslims. hmm

Maremia Mon 08-Dec-25 08:57:30

paddyann, nothing to do with this Thread, but another Zombie has been resurrected, about Chinese medicine. Just to let you know that I reported it. Your name was at the top.
So many of them just now.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Dec-25 09:01:26

MaizieD

fancythat

MaizieD

mum2three

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

Did you not know that Islam worships the same god?

They have to believe in Jesus.
Not aware that they do.

To be saved, a person has to believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and repent of their sins[no need to list them for God, as he knows them already, and everyones' lists would be large!].

Jews worship the same god, too.
They don’t acknowledge Jesus, either

We’re fine about them, but dislike muslims. hmm

Robinson doesn’t like Jews or Muslims. I suspect he was entirely indifferent about christians too until he hit on the latest wheeze to further divide the population.

lixy Mon 08-Dec-25 09:02:47

fancythat Jesus is respected as a prophet in religions other than Christianity, including both Islam and Judaism.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is an opportunist and, like grandmabatty I would not want to be associated with him in any way.
I find it astonishing that he is now promoting the cause of one of the most famous refugees in history and, presumably, the Christian ethos of acceptance of all.

Oreo Mon 08-Dec-25 09:13:48

MaizieD

Galaxy

But by the second post we have moved on to Reform voters.

I don’t think that you are naive enough to believe that followers of Yaxley Lennon aren’t Reform voters.

All Reform voters are certainly not fans of TR/YL that’s a very unfair path to go down.

Oreo Mon 08-Dec-25 09:18:12

Whitewavemark2

Galaxy

So we are deciding that reform voters shouldn't go to church. Count me out of that.

😄😄. Perhaps they will get the message about loving your fellow woman.

One can but hope

Do you really believe that Reform voters shouldn’t attend church Whitewavemark2? It’s a curious stance from a poster who presents as a liberal.

Oreo Mon 08-Dec-25 09:20:38

Galaxy

Do people understand that five minutes ago being right wing was a perfectly normal thing to be. Being on the left does not mean you are necessarily a good person.

That made me laugh in a hollow kind of way, left wing voters are not any better than right wing voters of course, but yes it does need saying.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Dec-25 09:21:50

imaround

I am watching the same playbook used in the US start to roll out there. Divide and conquer.

No one is taking anything away from Christmas. confused

I was thinking about your post iamaround and the U.K.

We are like a little mini-mirror image although luckily we have not yet voted in our mini-Trump who goes by the name of Farage. Robinson and all his followers are like mini-proud boys and white supremicists .

Trump of course distanced himself from his more violent, extreme supporters whilst he was on the election stump, but now he has pardoned them of all their sins.

Expect the same in the U.K.

fancythat Mon 08-Dec-25 09:22:02

^fancythat Jesus is respected as a prophet in religions other than Christianity, including both Islam and Judaism.
^

Do they believe he was raised from the dead is the bit that is crucial.

Oreo Mon 08-Dec-25 09:22:44

How about a little love and forgiveness at this time of year?

Oreo Mon 08-Dec-25 09:23:48

No, they believe he was an extremely good man and a prophet which makes him very special.

fancythat Mon 08-Dec-25 09:23:53

MaizieD

fancythat

MaizieD

mum2three

Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Trying to get people back into church is a response to the spread of Islam in Britain. So many British people have lost their sense of identity. Being Christian is part of that identity.
The Winter festival has been celebrated for thousands of years, it is not a recent event. However, it is a good time for people to be reminded of why we call it Christmas.
Those who have studied the life of Jesus will know that he was a communist. His organisation lived in communities similar to a kibbutz.

Did you not know that Islam worships the same god?

They have to believe in Jesus.
Not aware that they do.

To be saved, a person has to believe that Jesus rose from the dead, and repent of their sins[no need to list them for God, as he knows them already, and everyones' lists would be large!].

Jews worship the same god, too.
They don’t acknowledge Jesus, either

We’re fine about them, but dislike muslims. hmm

Some Jews will get "grafted in" later on.
Will find the Bible verses at some point.