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Trump’s visa plans

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Nandalot Wed 10-Dec-25 17:21:18

Just when you think Trump couldn’t get any crazier, he has launched his new visa plans for most countries including the UK.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/10/tourists-social-media-trump
Although, it would obviously be good to screen for potential terrorists, I think the measures will put off a good number from visiting the US. The new visa will require 5 years of social media history, addresses and emails for five years and possibly the same for family members.
Visits to National Parks now cost £100 dollars tax including entrance fees. To cap it all, he is to abolish free entry on Martin Luther King Day although it will be free to enter on his birthday!

David49 Mon 22-Dec-25 19:00:05

Grandmabatty

You can't help yourself, can you David? 😂
Nothing you subsequently wrote says anything about a lived experience versus a visit.
Of course many in USA are against Trump. Imaround gave you the actual number who voted for him. And you're back to 'many agree with him' without citing sources.

You can’t help yourself can you Grandmabatty, it’s pretty clear many agree with Trump controlling migration or they wouldn’t still be supporting him in congress, enabling him to carry on. He does it because he can, migration, tariffs, diversity, Ukraine, Venezuela, Gaza if you want, he will continue until the Republican Party break ranks and he gets impeached.

You just don’t realize what is happening, are you really so deluded that he is doing it with a lot of support, he has changed more in a year than the previous 20 years. There hasn’t been a collapse in the stock market, he hasn’t declared war on anyone, despite all the predictions. China is playing along because they know he can’t intimidate them, Putin is being awkward but if the EU is willing to support what he sees as a lost cause, good luck to them.

They - whoever they are, are supporting (or advising) Trump all the way

imaround Mon 22-Dec-25 16:13:16

That makes sense Casdon. Thank you for explaining that.

Casdon Mon 22-Dec-25 16:09:24

British PMs rarely have approval ratings above 40%, which is unsurprising given they aren’t directly elected by the public, whereas US presidents are. I think their system has its pros and cons, because it is a personal popularity contest, closely linked to financing an election campaign, and wealth and popularity is not related to competence.

imaround Mon 22-Dec-25 16:08:26

Oops, that was to Granny gravy. Not Galaxy! I misread the quote.

imaround Mon 22-Dec-25 16:07:52

I don't like to comment on politics in the UK, because I don't live there and know nothing about it, but that shocks me Galaxy! Mostly because I can't think of anyone less popular than Trump!

I am aware enough that the migrant issues you deal with in the UK have an overall different impact on your country than what we have here in the US due to our sheer size and available resources we have.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Dec-25 15:53:43

Galaxy

He won two elections, I know this is very hard for people, but under the system currently operating in America, that us what happened.

Yes.

Currently POTUS has a higher approval rating than Keir Starmer 🤷‍♀️

Galaxy Mon 22-Dec-25 15:52:18

He won two elections, I know this is very hard for people, but under the system currently operating in America, that us what happened.

imaround Mon 22-Dec-25 15:52:03

A lot of people are starting to see through the fake news baloney he spouts. Unfortunately, his favorite Fox shows similar numbers. That made him mad recently. grin

Ladyleftfieldlover Mon 22-Dec-25 15:49:57

imaround

Overall, Trump's approval rating is his lowest ever, 36%.

Of course he’ll say it’s fake news and everyone loves him.

imaround Mon 22-Dec-25 15:43:49

Overall, Trump's approval rating is his lowest ever, 36%.

imaround Mon 22-Dec-25 15:29:02

Here is a recent poll, December 11th that shows how many people agree with Trump about immigration. Numbers are slipping.

apnorc.org/projects/trumps-approval-rating-slips-on-the-economy-and-immigration/

Wyllow3 Mon 22-Dec-25 15:20:18

AmberGran

Wyllow3

They are not "illegals" David.

No human being is "an illegal".

They are non visa immigrants, and the term "irregular migrant" fits appropriately and well.

^Words matter^

I'm confused. Given that every country requires visitors to obtain appropriate visas/passports/etc before visiting the country (whether for tourism or immigration) doesn't that make someone who doesn't have those documents but attempts to enter the country an illegal immigrant? Though not an illegal human being, I'll agree.

That's a bit like calling someone who forcibly breaks into your house an unwanted visitor.

Because a good proportion entering are genuine asylum seekers or refugees.

words Do matter

Grandmabatty Mon 22-Dec-25 15:16:04

You can't help yourself, can you David? 😂
Nothing you subsequently wrote says anything about a lived experience versus a visit.
Of course many in USA are against Trump. Imaround gave you the actual number who voted for him. And you're back to 'many agree with him' without citing sources.

imaround Mon 22-Dec-25 15:14:46

Grandmabatty, the Visas that this thread is about has nothing to do with undocumented immigrants coming across the border. This entire topic is about companies that use the H1B Visas, which is a specific, legal Visa used to bring high skilled workers into the US. It targets mainly the tech workers that US based companies bring over for cheaper than US based tech workers.

Comparing the legal Visas that Trump is targeting to undocumented workers is apples to oranges.

David49 Mon 22-Dec-25 13:25:50

Grandmabatty

I'd prefer to trust the information from people who actually live in the country, than someone who visits regularly. Regularly could mean once a week, month or year or somewhere in between

Well around 25,000 flew out of Heathrow yesterday that would disagree with you, of course many of US residents disagree with Trump, Democrats plus others, many others agree with him controlling migration.

David49 Mon 22-Dec-25 13:16:52

Anyone who arrives without a visa IS illegal, most claim assylum, but when the arrived they were illegal.

If I arrived in any country without a visa I would be arrested and sent straight back home. Most are young male economic migrants, that have deliberately destroyed their passports so the intent to deceive was deliberate. If they were genuine why destroy documents?.

AmberGran Mon 22-Dec-25 12:37:23

Wyllow3

They are not "illegals" David.

No human being is "an illegal".

They are non visa immigrants, and the term "irregular migrant" fits appropriately and well.

^Words matter^

I'm confused. Given that every country requires visitors to obtain appropriate visas/passports/etc before visiting the country (whether for tourism or immigration) doesn't that make someone who doesn't have those documents but attempts to enter the country an illegal immigrant? Though not an illegal human being, I'll agree.

That's a bit like calling someone who forcibly breaks into your house an unwanted visitor.

Grandmabatty Mon 22-Dec-25 12:08:35

I'd prefer to trust the information from people who actually live in the country, than someone who visits regularly. Regularly could mean once a week, month or year or somewhere in between

Wyllow3 Mon 22-Dec-25 12:00:04

They are not "illegals" David.

No human being is "an illegal".

They are non visa immigrants, and the term "irregular migrant" fits appropriately and well.

Words matter

imaround Mon 22-Dec-25 11:35:48

Not all Americans put up with Trump. Less than 30% of eligible voters put Trump in office.

Those who do not put up with Trump are filing lawsuits, protesting, boycotting, and voting against him. Which is working, albeit slower than any of us would like, it is faster than we expected.

What more would you suggest we do?

Allsorts Mon 22-Dec-25 07:54:22

Why do Americans put up with Trump. I would like to know. He is at best a major embarrassment, are they not ashamed of him? Money seems to buy you a Presidency in USA.

David49 Mon 22-Dec-25 07:34:14

I am regular visitor to the US from the UK so I am interested just what, if any new regulations might affect me. Having checked what information there is available it seems that social media and other checks will affect migrants and workers going to the US, not tourists.

Thousands travel from UK to US every day, yesterday (Sunday) there were 100 flights to the US from Heathrow alone, so there does not seem to be any crisis entering the US for tourists.

Trump is obviously a very controversial character, individuals may decide they don’t want to travel to US because they don’t like him, that’s their choice. From many countries it’s very difficult to travel to the US, those same countries it’s also very difficult to travel to the UK which is why we have so many illegals crossing the channel.

Grandmabatty Sun 21-Dec-25 20:26:51

David do you live in USA? Are you au fait with everything that's going on? Imaround actually lives there, so will be more clued up, I would think.
Imaround I think you have been very understanding of someone who claims things are FACTS without providing evidence. Who writes ' many are caught arranging work' without giving sources or details. However this seems to be David's modus operandi.

petra Sun 21-Dec-25 17:45:44

imaround

I had not seen that Petra. grin

Milania came in on a questionable Visa herself. Elon admitted he was in violation of his Visa himself.

The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Another one I think you’ll enjoy.

www.facebook.com/reel/1325337549631310

David49 Sun 21-Dec-25 16:41:33

imaround

Were they turned away due to their social media history?

More likely they has an ESTA but for some reason they were interviewed, customs looks at messages on phones, many are caught arranging work during their stay. Australia a NZ regularly send passengers home too, many get refused entry in the UK many more overstay their visa.

There are several Border Police programmes on TV with just those incidents and a lot more serious ones as well.