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Trump’s visa plans

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Nandalot Wed 10-Dec-25 17:21:18

Just when you think Trump couldn’t get any crazier, he has launched his new visa plans for most countries including the UK.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/10/tourists-social-media-trump
Although, it would obviously be good to screen for potential terrorists, I think the measures will put off a good number from visiting the US. The new visa will require 5 years of social media history, addresses and emails for five years and possibly the same for family members.
Visits to National Parks now cost £100 dollars tax including entrance fees. To cap it all, he is to abolish free entry on Martin Luther King Day although it will be free to enter on his birthday!

imaround Sun 21-Dec-25 16:31:32

Thank you David, for allowing both of us to show the world who we are.

thanks

Whitewavemark2 Sun 21-Dec-25 16:18:50

Anyone watched his “state of the Nation” speech a couple of days ago.😄😄?

He’s lost it hasn’t he?

Apparently it was partly in response to a Vanity Faire video/photos, which were unfortunate to say the least.

According to Trump, you now are paid money every time you pick up your medicine. What a fool he is.

David49 Sun 21-Dec-25 16:04:54

imaround

You were spreading misinformation David and I corrected you. Then you were rude. You have no idea how I feel about this, or any other migration.

Have a nice day.

You were rude, accusing Mansplaining so I returned the favour,
No don’t know why you have a bee in your bonnet about US Visas, millions are in the US illegally, that’s far more than the UK, we deport those we find so does the US.

The Koreans had not got the correct visas FACT.

imaround Sun 21-Dec-25 15:01:52

I had not seen that Petra. grin

Milania came in on a questionable Visa herself. Elon admitted he was in violation of his Visa himself.

The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

petra Sun 21-Dec-25 10:41:23

I know there are probably lots of people who have seen this but this is for those who haven’t.
Sooooo true.

www.facebook.com/reel/1574245390237410

imaround Sun 21-Dec-25 04:19:59

Were they turned away due to their social media history?

Deedaa Sat 20-Dec-25 20:25:53

A friend of mine has just told me that her daughter has just cancelled her holiday in New York and is going to Egypt instead. Apparently she had thought that her mother was exaggerating when she warned her about Trump, but one of her friends was in a group travelling to the US. When they arrived their phones were taken away and they were denied entry. She now thinks Mother is right.

Grandmabatty Fri 19-Dec-25 19:35:23

Thank you for your clear and calm rebuttal imaround.

imaround Fri 19-Dec-25 17:24:30

You were spreading misinformation David and I corrected you. Then you were rude. You have no idea how I feel about this, or any other migration.

Have a nice day.

foxie48 Fri 19-Dec-25 16:52:56

Seems it was a bit of an own goal! The Korean workers were installing machinery and training American workers in a huge new Hyundai factory and now they don't want to go back so the opening of the factory is on hold.They were breaking federal law by not having the correct visas for temporary workers but apparently this is common practice because of the difficulty and time taken to get the correct visas. South Korean government is saying Korean companies are reviewing if they should open factories in the US despite the US visas now being (rapidly) available and S Korean companies are putting limits on business travel to the US.

David49 Fri 19-Dec-25 16:25:52

imaround

You said, and I quote:

"Trump has made these changes because companies were bringing in large numbers of migrant workers when local workers were available. Recently a Korean company brought in hundreds migrant workers onto a construction site that had no special skills, they were sent home. In future if a migrant worker has special skills the company will have to pay a large bond to do that, protecting local workers jobs."

When the truth is:

"The South Korean nationals detained in Georgia were largely engineers and other highly skilled workers who came to the US temporarily to install equipment and perform other specialized work to get the battery plant up and running."

Hope that helps.

They had still not got valid visas, skills or not, l suppose you think that doesn’t matter.
I’m not a Trump supporter, but when it comes to migration every state, has immigration regulations and they should be enforced.

CabbageWars13 Thu 18-Dec-25 17:00:56

This is a man who changes his mind on a whim, or even less.

Why do the American public allow him to behave like a French monarch, pre-revolution?

imaround Thu 18-Dec-25 16:51:21

You said, and I quote:

"Trump has made these changes because companies were bringing in large numbers of migrant workers when local workers were available. Recently a Korean company brought in hundreds migrant workers onto a construction site that had no special skills, they were sent home. In future if a migrant worker has special skills the company will have to pay a large bond to do that, protecting local workers jobs."

When the truth is:

"The South Korean nationals detained in Georgia were largely engineers and other highly skilled workers who came to the US temporarily to install equipment and perform other specialized work to get the battery plant up and running."

Hope that helps.

David49 Thu 18-Dec-25 16:26:36

imaround

I did read the article, did you? The article says that, yes they were rounded up, but most of them were highly skilled workers who ended up returning to the US once their visa issues were cleared up.

Stop mansplaining me. You are wrong on this one.

Just correcting your previous womansplaining

imaround Thu 18-Dec-25 13:09:49

I did read the article, did you? The article says that, yes they were rounded up, but most of them were highly skilled workers who ended up returning to the US once their visa issues were cleared up.

Stop mansplaining me. You are wrong on this one.

friendlygingercat Thu 18-Dec-25 13:05:28

I have to go over to the USA about once a year. Fortunately I still have a permanent green card from when I was an associate professor at Uni of Nevada. The employer flies me and a carer out business class with special assistance so no queues. Its just a deductable business expense for them.

David49 Thu 18-Dec-25 13:01:30

Casdon

Or visit the USA either unless they have family there David49. I know several people who have cancelled big trips they were planning.

That’s their choice I hear both sides, my wife’s brother and sister live there, he is a staunch Republican, she a staunch Democrat, when we visit we don’t discuss politics otherwise it’s holiday as usual.
Immigration delays are routine if the passport scanner doesn’t work it takes longer but you still have to wait for bags to come through.
Now I know ESTAs are still valid I’m not expecting problems.

David49 Thu 18-Dec-25 12:51:42

imaround

"The South Korean nationals detained in Georgia were largely engineers and other highly skilled workers who came to the US temporarily to install equipment and perform other specialized work to get the battery plant up and running."

These weren't random foreign workers David. These were specialized engineers brought in temporarily to get the new plant up and running, not unskilled workers as you claim.

Some of the workers detained and deported have returned to the US to finish their job.

www.cnn.com/2025/11/14/us/hyundai-georgia-raid-korean-workers-back-hnk

If you had read the article properly you would have seen

More than 300 South Korean workers were detained in an immigration raid September 4 at the sprawling site where the Hyundai Motor Group produces electric vehicles near Savannah. The workers spent a week at a Georgia detention center before the South Korean government negotiated their release and flew them home.

Exactly the same would have happened in the UK, illegal workers are sent home

Casdon Thu 18-Dec-25 10:04:12

Or visit the USA either unless they have family there David49. I know several people who have cancelled big trips they were planning.

foxie48 Thu 18-Dec-25 09:44:48

She's been making some very good points and she's popular with the MAGA base, so it will hurt Trump. She's saying the Republicans are heading for losses in the mid terms, hopefully she's right.

Maremia Thu 18-Dec-25 08:46:02

Marjorie Taylor Greene has called him out, on his comments about the Reiner murders. She is making sure to get the boot in, before she goes.

foxie48 Thu 18-Dec-25 08:45:25

Yes I know David I subscribe to the Washington Post and watch CNN. I do know what's happening in the US. Members of my family travel to the US quite frequently, my younger daughter's partner travels to Boston regularly as he has research links with MIT. He was there in November and has very strong views about this proposed change. It would affect tourists, business travellers IMO is an invasion of privacy and is likely to make queues to get through immigration even longer. It will definitely affect tourism so hopefully it won't go through.

imaround Thu 18-Dec-25 08:38:02

"The South Korean nationals detained in Georgia were largely engineers and other highly skilled workers who came to the US temporarily to install equipment and perform other specialized work to get the battery plant up and running."

These weren't random foreign workers David. These were specialized engineers brought in temporarily to get the new plant up and running, not unskilled workers as you claim.

Some of the workers detained and deported have returned to the US to finish their job.

www.cnn.com/2025/11/14/us/hyundai-georgia-raid-korean-workers-back-hnk

David49 Thu 18-Dec-25 08:28:00

foxie48

I haven't seen any hysteria, these are proposals that Trump has put forward for implementation. Clearly you assumed they were current, they are not.

If you are in India they are, visas have been cancelled, 30 countries in total. It doesnt look a big deal for tourists and I don’t expect many Gransnetters are planning to work in the US.

foxie48 Thu 18-Dec-25 07:41:28

I haven't seen any hysteria, these are proposals that Trump has put forward for implementation. Clearly you assumed they were current, they are not.