Mass shooting by suspected Islamist extremists at Bondi Beach

Galaxy

It is just horrendous.
I don't want to be one of those who try to look for the good in this, I am endlessly tired of the platitudes that follow these events, but it does look there were some incredible acts of bravery.

I don’t understand your comment Galaxy? I don’t see how there could ever possibly be any good in innocent people being murdered, and hundreds of other innocent people witnessing such a barbaric act.

I don't understand hate especially this level of hate that focuses on certain groups of people and wants to kill them.
Why can't we accept each other. We are all human beings. Despising someone because of religion, race or anything that is different to ourselves is beyond my comprehension.
My thoughts are with those who have lost loved ones today 🥀

I think the world is finally waking up to the Islamist threat. Our weakness is their strength.

Sago

Magenta8

Horrendous news. what should have been a lovely, peaceful celebration has been turned into an awful tragedy.

Please correct me if I am wrong but my understanding was that there is no established link with Islamic, antisemitic terrorism so far. Of course that does not rule it out at this stage.

There is live coverage on the BBC News website.

Seriously!!!!!!

When Middle Eastern looking men are shooting at Jews celebrating a Jewish festival, I think it’s safe to say it’s Islamists.

FYO At the time I first came across the news on the BBC website no descriptions of the gunmen had been released and I was careful to add that Islamic terrorism had not been ruled out.

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Vito The Australian police declared it a terror attack on a Jewish group, who else but Islamist extremists would do that?
So we do know.

Apparently one gunman has been named and is a Pakistani immigrant from Lahore.

Oreo

Vito The Australian police declared it a terror attack on a Jewish group, who else but Islamist extremists would do that?
So we do know.

We don’t know, not yet. It would however be more shocking if it were not Islamic extremists, because it would be unexpected.

Vito
Nope I haven't heard anything about it being an Islamic terrorist act. As for the comment about the men being Eastern looking, so it must be an Islamist terror act,words fail me.
This is just the sort of rhetoric that causes hate and division, and I for one am sick of it.
Wait until we know before piling in with your own vitriol and poison

No. What causes hate and division is Islamic terrorists slaughtering innocent people in the name of their twisted ideology.

Casdon

Oreo

Vito The Australian police declared it a terror attack on a Jewish group, who else but Islamist extremists would do that?
So we do know.

We don’t know, not yet. It would however be more shocking if it were not Islamic extremists, because it would be unexpected.

Who else hates Jews so much?

surfsup

Apparently one gunman has been named and is a Pakistani immigrant from Lahore.

Well there we are!

That was totally unnecessary Oreo

Oreo

Casdon

Oreo

Vito The Australian police declared it a terror attack on a Jewish group, who else but Islamist extremists would do that?
So we do know.

We don’t know, not yet. It would however be more shocking if it were not Islamic extremists, because it would be unexpected.

Who else hates Jews so much?

Nobody that we know of, which is why it would be unexpected. However, the unexpected often turns out to be the case, for example recently when Charlie Kirk was killed.

CarS

I think the world is finally waking up to the Islamist threat. Our weakness is their strength.

What is our weakness?

Australian media have identified the bystander who tackled one of the two gunmen as fruit shop owner Ahmed al-Ahmed, 43, Reuters reports.

Al-Ahmed was filmed charging a gunman from behind, grappling with him and wresting a rifle from his hands.

"There are many, many people alive tonight as a result of his bravery," said Chris Minns, premier of New South Wales state where Sydney is located, calling the bystander "a genuine hero."

I don't think there is anything good in any of this Casdon, but I do think it is important to recognise bravery when it occurs, bravery is quite rare I think and I admire it because I don't think it is a quality I would possess.

I just saw that clip on Sky News, what an incredibly brave thing to do. I wonder if Australia has a bravery award because he certainly deserves one.

Galaxy

I don't think there is anything good in any of this Casdon, but I do think it is important to recognise bravery when it occurs, bravery is quite rare I think and I admire it because I don't think it is a quality I would possess.

He did get shot himself and went to hospital; a report said that he needs surgery.

If so, I hope he will be all right.
He is a hero.

So very very sad

We were typing at the same time Galaxy, saying the same thing I think. There are some real heroes in these situations.

Great minds think alike Casdon.
I think also there is something so vulnerable about being on a beach, so horrific.

Yes, I agree, there’s nowhere to run on a beach, and there would have been lots of children there on a Sunday afternoon too. Awful.

Casdon

Yes, I agree, there’s nowhere to run on a beach, and there would have been lots of children there on a Sunday afternoon too. Awful.

I don't think it happened on the beach itself, I'm not sure but think it was in a park just behind the beach but still difficult to escape.

BlueBelle

That was totally unnecessary Oreo

I haven’t said anything that isn’t necessary.

I think it’s one of those green spaces that runs onto the beach Allira, where people have their picnics etc. where it’s flat, and can look down to the sea.