USA Issues Threat To Greenland

Oh please don't talk of WW3!

Only 6% of Greenlanders want to join the USA with 85% against.
A peaceful nation with it's own customs to be run by the USA sounds appalling to me.

Yes Cossy that’s my experience too. I didn’t necessarily expect that young Greenlanders would be “shallow”.

It was just something I wondered about, leading to me doing a bit of research. If I have a question in my own mind, I always like to probe into it.

Lizziedrip

I don’t think many young people are swayed by “the promise of McDonald’s and MAGA hats” in many countries. I’m not at all surprised by the info you’ve found. Many young people, even in this country, are very politically savvy, and in my experience quite moral.

Of our 5 children, aged between 23 and 41, three are VERY politically aware and are equally concerned with climate change and human rights and social justice, many of their friends feel the same and that’s great as they are the future.

I did wonder if the younger Greenlanders might be more favourable towards USA ‘rule’ (lured by the promise of ‘MacDonalds & MAGA hats’) so I asked Chat GPT.

Turns out young Greenlanders are not that shallow. Well done them IMO.

Here’s Chat GPT’s answer:

“Most evidence we have from public debate, youth organizations, and past polling suggests that young people in Greenland generally do not want to be ruled by the United States.

Here’s why:

1. Strong Greenlandic identity

Young Greenlanders tend to have a strong sense of national and cultural identity, rooted in Inuit heritage, language, and local self-government. For many, the long-term aspiration is more independence, not swapping one distant authority for another.

2. Self-rule vs. outside rule

Greenland already has home rule and self-rule within the Kingdom of Denmark. Among younger generations, the dominant political conversation is:
•More autonomy, or eventually
•Full independence
—not becoming part of another country.

American rule is often viewed as less democratic influence, since Greenlanders would have limited say in U.S. federal politics.

3. Mixed views on the U.S.

Young people in Greenland often distinguish between:
•Pragmatic cooperation with the U.S. (education, jobs, investment, defense, climate research)
•Political control by the U.S. (widely unpopular)

The presence of U.S. military bases is tolerated by some for security and economic reasons, but that does not translate into support for American governance.

4. Concerns about culture and environment

Many young Greenlanders worry that U.S. control could mean:
•Increased resource extraction
•Less protection for the environment
•Cultural marginalization

These issues resonate strongly with younger voters.

5. Denmark isn’t perfect—but it’s familiar

While there is criticism of Denmark, younger Greenlanders generally see the relationship as:
•More socially supportive
•More aligned with Nordic welfare values
•Easier to reform or eventually leave than entering U.S. rule.

Bottom line

If you asked young people in Greenland to choose, the likely preference order would be:
1.More self-rule / independence
2.Status quo with Denmark (for now)
3.American (distant last)”

If only that binary choice existed, but we are losing out liberal democracies to the hard right authoritarian regimes at present.

That is where our fight lies.

Looking at the Greenland economy, it is as we have said at present heavily subsidised, but the future with global warming, ironically looks much brighter, because with ice melt it is going to be so much easier to extract the natural resources.

Greenlanders could therefore have a viable total independence, and be in control of their own destiny.

What the hell is happening in our world?

It being divided up between the Western liberal ideology and the Chinese controlled ideology.

We are going to have to choose, I know which I want!

Whitewavemark2

I had not appreciated until recent reading about Greenland people and their culture that they are in fact almost entirely Inuit, with Inuit culture and Scandinavia culture also being very influential.

They are a hunter nation and language is largely Danish.

So no one should get the impression that they will benefit from USA takeover, in fact almost certainly quite the opposite.

Look how the USA treats its own indigenous people.

No one benefits from anything Trump does, in or out of his country, except Trump and a small group of supporters.

Suzieque66

Well that's what people said about Hitler ..and then he marched into Poland ...

I’m assuming you’re replying to REKA, and I utterly agree.

I had not appreciated until recent reading about Greenland people and their culture that they are in fact almost entirely Inuit, with Inuit culture and Scandinavia culture also being very influential.

They are a hunter nation and language is largely Danish.

So no one should get the impression that they will benefit from USA takeover, in fact almost certainly quite the opposite.

Look how the USA treats its own indigenous people.

Also in terms of War, do remember the bombing of Pearl Harbour was the catalyst for “helping out” in WW2.

Surely, if Trump carries on countries, such as Greenland and indeed us, who have USA airbases on their land, can take steps to expel said troops from their countries?

USA, Russia and China, in themselves are not threats, it’s their dictator leaders and despot governments who are causing all this chaos and unrest.

What the hell is happening in our world?

Well that's what people said about Hitler ..and then he marched into Poland ...

REKA

Very interesting article on Sky news . Pointing out that Trump does have a point

Because we've always assumed USA will always help out, many European countries have let their military expenditure lessen. Which has weakened us.

NATO needs USA far more than USA needs NATO

It's just another change in an unsettled world.

I doubt very much that any war will happen due to this

I don’t think it matters, to be frank, whether one feels NATO needs USA more than USA needs NATO, it’s a signed, legal and moral, agreement.

USA can leave NATO and show Trumps appalling morals and stupidity, at some point countries have to stand up to Trump, it won’t end at Greenland!

Whitewavemark2

Interesting take on the need for a country to subsidise some of its citizens, and therefore could be off loaded to a foreign country.

I believe that the people living in NI have been “subsidised” over the years by the Westminster government, or perhaps the Welsh or Cornish - maybe it is time to offer them to the USA.

I think it’s an “awful” rather than “interesting” take!

Interesting take on the need for a country to subsidise some of its citizens, and therefore could be off loaded to a foreign country.

I believe that the people living in NI have been “subsidised” over the years by the Westminster government, or perhaps the Welsh or Cornish - maybe it is time to offer them to the USA.

Both Denmark and Greenland have made it very very clear Greenland is not for sale.

I cannot see any other way for Trump to take it other than by force.

It doesn’t matter one fog whether it’s important to USA security, it’s not theirs! Can Trump and his buddies not understand plain English?

Very interesting article on Sky news . Pointing out that Trump does have a point

Because we've always assumed USA will always help out, many European countries have let their military expenditure lessen. Which has weakened us.

NATO needs USA far more than USA needs NATO

It's just another change in an unsettled world.

I doubt very much that any war will happen due to this

Gran22boys

Just when you think things can’t get any worse they get worse.

I would agree with that "what next" feeling. While three people, currently with a great deal of power, try to expand their influence over a third of the world for each of them we must expect the unacceptable.

The population of Greenland is around 56000 David, however, you're right in that some country will always have to subsidise them.
I was there in the summer, they are deeply opposed to an American takeover but total independence just isn't an option as you said.

A military take over is very unlikely because when the Democrats gain power ot Trump looses his majority, it will get reversed, much more likely is a deal with Denmark. Independance is not an option for Greenland they have virtually no income to buy the imports they need. If they were to be independant, probably a $1 billion a year would be needed to sustain them, if it doesn’t come from The US or Denmark, then who?.
Greenland and is actually quite a burden on Denmark, it costs $600 million to subsidize the population of 22,000 every year, so that could be quite a favourable deal for Denmark

Think Trump has decided he runs planet Earth! Delusions of grandeur, lack of sense??? Tanith you've got it!

And I thought Putin was mad!!!

Gran22boys

Just when you think things can’t get any worse they get worse.

They have. Trump issues threat from White House to take Greenland.

World War III?

Just when you think things can’t get any worse they get worse.