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Woman shot and killed by ICE officers in Minneapolis, Minnesota

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Syracute Thu 08-Jan-26 10:27:26

Yesterday there was a very tragic shooting of a woman leaving the scene of an Immigration raid/incident . The video clips are very disturbing as she is shot and killed by an officer after she was given conflicting information by two officers . One who told her to leave and another who told her to get out of the car.
She was killed by a third officer who was to the side of the car . I can only advise you not to watch the clip if you feel it might be disturbing . I was able to read a good account of it in the NYT and it definitely looks and reads like she was murdered.
She was a white, US citizen not a target of the raid.

I truly feel like the USA is imploding from the inside out and that Trump is creating fires of danger everywhere.

LemonJam Wed 14-Jan-26 19:42:50

Thanks for your post Elegran 18.47, with the account from Carin Mrotz, Minneapolis resident and Senior Advisor in the Minnesota Attorney General's Office, provides this powerful account of what she's witnessing. She has a senior role in a legal setting so aware that her reputation is at risk if she is not able to evidence her claims/texts etc. Therefore I give it some credence.

Your second post 19.31 - good to know there is a level of confidence that charges may be brought- so that the whole event and evidence can be tested in a court of law. The link for bystanders to send video evidence in real time from multiple angles may help that process.

Elegran Wed 14-Jan-26 19:31:02

annemitchell Attorney ⚖️ Law Prof 🎓 Law Author
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"I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH THE HENNEPIN COUNTY (MINNESOTA) ATTORNEYS OFFICE ABOUT THEIR INVESTIGATION INTO JONATHAN ROSS AND HIS KILLING OF RENEE GOOD
They are actively investigating (which means they are looking to bring charges if they can get enough evidence to charge him), and yes, it's been substantially hampered by the administration grabbing the evidence and not sharing it. But while the administration's refusal to give Hennepin County access to the evidence is a clear play to cover their own backsides, the Hennepin County attorney working the case, Mary Moriarty, is undaunted. There is a lot of citizen footage of the shooting out there, from all angles, and the Hennepin County Attorneys' office has created a portal for citizens to upload any evidence they have (videos, photos, eyewitness accounts). (link below)
To answer the questions that I know some of you have: Yes, they can bring state charges. No, Trump cannot pardon state charges. And yes, and this is important - THIS PART IS JUST WHAT I THINK, I did not get this from my phone call (in fact they shared very little of the details on the call because they are being very careful, which I applaud) - I think that they will bring what evidence they can to the Minnesota Grand Jury and I believe they will secure an indictment.
HERE IS THE IMPORTANT TAKEAWAY: They are investigating, and I am fairly confident that this will lead to them bringing charges. In fact, I'm certain that the administration is sure of that as well, which is why they are doing everything possible to hamper the state-level investigation. So, if you have any original source material or eyewitness information that may inform this investigation, please upload it in the portal here: hennepinprosecutor.evidence.com/axon/community-request/public/communityevidencerequest1-7-26?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 14-Jan-26 19:04:15

Ladyleftfieldlover

I’ve read a similar report by an American friend. The whole thing is too horrifying for words. Surely this is the beginning of the end for November’s midterms?

That’s what I think

Ladyleftfieldlover Wed 14-Jan-26 19:02:04

I’ve read a similar report by an American friend. The whole thing is too horrifying for words. Surely this is the beginning of the end for November’s midterms?

Elegran Wed 14-Jan-26 18:47:35

I am sorry this is another long post, but a neat soundbite is impossible. Carin Mrotz, Minneapolis resident and Senior Advisor in the Minnesota Attorney General's Office, provides this powerful account of what she's witnessing.

"More than 2,400 heavily armed federal agents have flooded the Minneapolis area since early January -- one of the largest federal occupations of an American city in U.S. history. The Department of Homeland Security is conducting the operation over the objections of every level of state and local government, with whom it has made no effort to coordinate even as convoys of masked agents with assault rifles and combat gear descend on quiet residential streets

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey has called the deployment "wildly disproportionate" and a massive waste of taxpayer dollars, noting "at times, there are as many as 50 agents arresting one person." City Council President Elliott Payne put it succinctly: "This is a military occupation, and it feels like a military occupation."

Thank you to Carin Mrotz, Minneapolis resident and Senior Advisor in the Minnesota Attorney General's Office, for providing this powerful account of what she's witnessing:
"A post for my friends and family outside of Minneapolis. There is a lot of misinformation flying around and I want to share my perspective if it's useful or compelling or helps cut through the clickbait and profiteering.

Over the past several weeks, thousands of ICE agents have been deployed to the Twin Cities and more are expected this week. There are currently more ICE agents than local law enforcement in the metro area. In some places they are visiting businesses that are likely to employ or serve immigrants looking for people to arrest. In some places they are camping out in cars on highway exit ramps and pulling over drivers they believe look like they could be immigrants.

In neighborhoods like mine that are primarily residential with few business corridors, they are staging targeted raids of homes. But they mix it up, yesterday they were driving around the neighborhood and a neighbor reported that an agent pulled over and asked her husband, who was out walking the dog, if he was a US citizen.

Yesterday morning I received a text in my neighborhood group chat that more than a dozen agents were staging outside of a house a few blocks away, legal observers were needed. I put on boots and drove over to a home near our middle school and found the street full of SUVs and men in militarized but not standardized gear with big "POLICE" labels all over them. These men were carrying big guns.

Several of my friends had already been maced and one of the agents was spraying mace into a crowd of observers as casually as a dad might spray his lawn with a hose in the summer. The agents brandished their guns at us a warning, or a threat, maybe both. Neighbors stood on the front lawns and blew whistles or banged on drums and asked to see the agents' warrant. ICE is not supposed to be able to enter a home without a judicial warrant, which is a warrant signed by a judge. If you are a law and order person, that might mean something to you.

Yesterday, after a few minutes of arguing with neighbors, 10-15 agents mustered and broke down the door of the single family home. They entered and after a few minutes, they re-emerged with a tall Black man in a tee shirt, shorts, an unzipped hoodie, and rubber slides. They led him to their vehicle. It was about 15 degrees out. His wife stood on the front lawn, begging to know why they took him. Behind her the front door stood broken, offering no security to a house full of family members, including children.

Several of us observers asked to see the warrant, and I took a picture. I will not share it out of concern for the man's privacy, but it was an administrative warrant, signed by an ice agent, not a judge. If it matters to you that residents follow the law in engaging with our occupying agents, this should matter to you. If you are a law and order person, you might consider that what I witnessed was an abduction, not an arrest."

Across the Twin Cities, raids like this continued all day. On the southside, ICE agents surrounded a legal observer in her vehicle, broke the windows, and dragged her and her passenger out of the car and detained them. Everyone I know knows someone who has either had a relative (or multiple relatives) taken or has been a witness to one of these abductions. The pace of the operations has been relentless, manic, and the agents are acting with remarkable brutality.

Yesterday, as one of my neighbors attended to another who'd been sprayed with mace, pouring clean water in her eyes on the icy sidewalk in below freezing temps, her mother stood nearby on the phone with MPD, asking them to send someone to help. I don't know if their decision not to was strategic or just simply about capacity, no local law enforcement has been present at any of the operations I've witnessed.

If you are someone who believes that you should absolutely just do whatever law enforcement tells you to do and you will be safe and respected, I would ask if you’ve ever had big guns drawn on you by someone yelling orders at you, those orders sometimes conflicting and unclear. And what if they were also spraying you with chemical irritants in 15 degree weather. If someone maced you for blowing a whistle at them, how confident are you in their ability to calmly follow procedure and not shoot you?

This summer our House Speaker Emerita and her husband were murdered in their home by someone impersonating a police officer. How confident are you that you could make sense of the meanings and markings of a uniform under stress? If armed men filled your street and broke down your neighbor’s door without a warrant, how confident are you that you could stay calm? These are questions we are asking ourselves constantly.

I have a lot of opinions about why this is happening, why Minnesota has been targeted and why our elected leaders are making the decisions they are and what will happen next, but this post is primarily to level set and let you know what's going on. Because I also want you to know how we are responding.

First, I want to say that my experiences are those of a white professional who is not at risk for deportation. Immigrants and people afraid of being mistaken for immigrants are having a different set of experiences. ICE has been putting detainees on planes and sending them to places like Texas before their families can even hire lawyers or find out where their loved ones have been taken

People are afraid and avoiding leaving their homes, even to get groceries. After ICE tear-gassed parents and school staff at a local high school last week, our public schools closed and have now re-opened with hybrid learning so that parents who are afraid to send their kids to school have an option.

Neighbors are organizing to protect and care for each other. We observe and document raids. We show up at schools at dropoff and pickup time, we pick up groceries for those who are staying home. Some of the muscle memory of the neighborhood watches we formed during the uprising 5 and a half years ago has reengaged. The Twin Cities is connected and resilient and pissed off and will continue to protect each other.

That is the important thing to know right now: Our cities are under occupation and we are being attacked by our federal government. And we are tenacious and we love each other and we will continue to protect each other. We will continue to blow whistles and bang pots and pans to alert our neighbors that ICE is nearby. We will continue to argue with them and waste their time knowing that someone else will have 15 more minutes to get away. We will continue to share videos of them slipping and falling on their asses on the icy walks and we will laugh hard at them. We have legal tools to fight them and we also have our long history of organizing and resistance." -- Carin Mrotz

In addition to these acts of local solidarity and resistance, on Monday, the state of Minnesota and the cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul filed a lawsuit asking a federal judge to halt the "unprecedented surge" and declare it unconstitutional, alleging warrantless arrests, excessive force against bystanders, racial profiling, and raids on sensitive locations including schools and hospitals.

The lawsuit also alleges the operation is politically motivated retaliation against a Democratic state, citing a January 9 interview in which Trump "essentially claimed that Minnesota is 'corrupt' and 'crooked' because its officials accurately reported election results and those results did not declare him the winner."
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LemonJam Wed 14-Jan-26 18:24:50

Lizziedrip 17.37- thank you also.

Casdon Wed 14-Jan-26 18:19:47

There has been plenty of reporting since it started, so I do think we do have a good idea of where they are with this Oreo, and how unanticipated a position they find themselves in now - it is a case of flying by the seat of his pants, again, for Trump.
edition.cnn.com/2026/01/14/politics/trump-iran-action-retaliation

Oreo Wed 14-Jan-26 18:07:37

Casdon

It’s the ungoverned nature of his response that is most concerning, not just in Iran but all his foreign policy moves. The potential consequences of the US actions in Iran have not been planned for in any way as far as I can gather, and he thinks he is omnipotent (probably without even knowing what it means).

We can’t know what is or isn’t planned by the US government can we?
It has to be remembered that although the President has a great deal of say in what happens there’s a whole group to advise him of military options.
What would you like to see him do to stop the killings of Iranians and help their cause?

westendgirl Wed 14-Jan-26 18:04:04

The latter was for Oreo in response to her comment.

westendgirl Wed 14-Jan-26 18:03:11

Perhaps I should have used the word precis or resume (with two accute accents)or digest , and , yes I do agree with what was said and the way it was said.

LemonJam Wed 14-Jan-26 17:38:48

westendgirl 16.49- thank you.
Maremia 16.58- thank you. I await to see what happens re Noem's impeachment.

LizzieDrip Wed 14-Jan-26 17:37:13

LemonJam 16:30 👏👏👏

Casdon Wed 14-Jan-26 17:34:49

It’s the ungoverned nature of his response that is most concerning, not just in Iran but all his foreign policy moves. The potential consequences of the US actions in Iran have not been planned for in any way as far as I can gather, and he thinks he is omnipotent (probably without even knowing what it means).

Oreo Wed 14-Jan-26 17:31:27

Galaxy

I don't often have chats with Trump though, if I did I would tell him to get a move on with regard to Iran. Possibly it is to the world's benefit that I am not involved in foreign policy.

You’re certainly right about Iran, he either moves fast on this now or it’s the end for the Iranians who want regime change.

Galaxy Wed 14-Jan-26 17:29:40

He can't win either way on Iran, more importantly Iran probably can't 'win' either way.

Oreo Wed 14-Jan-26 17:29:18

westendgirl

Lemon Jam thank you for your astute summing up .

Summing up 😂 hmmm, are we in court here?
Quite ridiculous to type out such a very long post in order to insist other posters are wrong.
And I see Syracute argues against very long posts but presumably only those made by those with a different opinion.
Just accept that not everyone agrees with you, is that so hard?

Casdon Wed 14-Jan-26 17:26:02

Yes, that statement may well come back to haunt you Galaxy. Trump has not learned that time spent in reconnaissance is seldom wasted.

Galaxy Wed 14-Jan-26 17:15:08

I don't often have chats with Trump though, if I did I would tell him to get a move on with regard to Iran. Possibly it is to the world's benefit that I am not involved in foreign policy.

Maremia Wed 14-Jan-26 17:10:24

Sorry to have to inform you Galaxy, but Trump himself is the arbiter of morality. He told this to the world, just a couple of days ago.

Galaxy Wed 14-Jan-26 17:07:39

Er one page ago those of us offering a different point of view were told to get our morality clock reset, no one seemed to worry about courtesy then.
I mean it just made me laugh but the idea that some posters are the arbiter of morality is an interesting one.
I didn't post on the Trump threads much ( mainly because there is so much trolling) but also because even swerving an inch from the narrative is seen as despicable. I have vaguely admired David's attempts to have some form of conversation as it certainly isn't easy.

Maremia Wed 14-Jan-26 17:00:24

I will def have to read yours DaisyAR, a few times.

Maremia Wed 14-Jan-26 16:58:31

Thank you LemonJam. I will have to read your post again. There is much in it with which I agree.

meanwhile

In the pursuit of justice, three charges are to be filed for Noem's impeachment.
No information so far about the due process for those arrested by ICE .
Perhaps that's because there is no due process to report?

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 14-Jan-26 16:54:19

Iam64

* people are nuts in the US *

Well, what an interesting take on your own country Starfire57. I expect ‘some posters’ might agree that it’s just a tad crazy to elect the Donald

I think "people are nuts in the US" is not a surprising as a description. Those who believe in:
• Charismatic authority: “This person sees what others don’t.”
• Narrative economics: Stories of decline, betrayal, revival, greatness.
• Immunity to falsification: Failed predictions don’t discredit the leader; they’re reinterpreted (“sabotage,” “corruption,” “the enemy”).
• Simplified causality: Complex systems are reduced to a few villains or saviors, will think the "other side is nuts".

But the other side who place their trust in:
• Empirical regularities
• Institutions (central banks, statistical agencies)
• Incremental adjustment
• Peer review and expert consensus
Will think think they are.

And those who have a third view and would tell you "Error is inevitable; refusal to correct is the real failure" would probably feel the wroth of both the others.

westendgirl Wed 14-Jan-26 16:49:50

Lemon Jam thank you for your astute summing up .

LemonJam Wed 14-Jan-26 16:30:32

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