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West Midlands Police Scandal

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Oreo Fri 16-Jan-26 17:14:44

At last, Craig Guildford has resigned his post and not before time!
It turned out to be worse than I thought when we had a thread on this subject.
It was a disgrace, the lying and fabricated evidence and blaming it on SM and AI .It may well have been a complicated decision as the area is heavily Muslim but we don’t base decisions on what’s easiest to do.
He even lied to say that Jewish residents all agreed with the ban. So glad that he’s gone but it should never have happened in the first place.

Iam64 Sat 17-Jan-26 20:56:08

eazybee, thanks for your post. You raise an interesting point t. If the false evidence had been to prevent say for example, a Muslim cricket team from Pakistan would we have seen it as Islamophobic

Genuine question

Oreo Sat 17-Jan-26 21:07:49

eazybee

When it concerns false evidence produced to keep away only the fans of a Jewish team it is antisemitic.

To be clear, I have found no evidence to support a view that antisemitism played any part in WMP stating that its preferred tactical option was to reduce to zero the ticket allocation to Maccabi Tel Aviv fans.

Why should West Midlands Police wish to reduce to zero the ticket allocation for Maccabi Tel Aviv fans??
I take this as meaning that only supporters of the home team should be permitted to watch the match.
Or does this mean only supporters from Britain supporting Maccabi should be permitted to watch?
If so, why??

I so see what you mean Eazybee plus a senior police officer did lie and say that the local Jewish community didn’t want the match to go ahead.
What I do think tho in this case it wasn’t antisemitism as such or at least not the main driver of what happened by the police
I think it was the antisemitism shown by the local people in
trying to get the match banned and the WMF going along with it as the easiest option so that evidence was made up and exaggerated to fit the bill.The government then got involved and Guildford then used the made up evidence to justify it.
He was rightly found out then he blamed AI and SM.

Oreo Sun 18-Jan-26 10:31:47

What it all boils down to is that we can’t allow any of our police forces to give in and make things up which suits both themselves and a certain demographic.

Allira Sun 18-Jan-26 10:34:23

eazybee

When it concerns false evidence produced to keep away only the fans of a Jewish team it is antisemitic.

To be clear, I have found no evidence to support a view that antisemitism played any part in WMP stating that its preferred tactical option was to reduce to zero the ticket allocation to Maccabi Tel Aviv fans.

Why should West Midlands Police wish to reduce to zero the ticket allocation for Maccabi Tel Aviv fans??
I take this as meaning that only supporters of the home team should be permitted to watch the match.
Or does this mean only supporters from Britain supporting Maccabi should be permitted to watch?
If so, why??

Good point and worth raising eazybee

Iam64's analogy is an interesting one.
I wonder what views might be on that were it to happen?

eazybee Sun 18-Jan-26 12:53:53

The attempts to prevent supporters of the Maccabi football team are labelled antisemitic because they are directed at Jewish people; should it have been a muslim team then it would probably have been labelled Islamophobic.
The point is, no-one should be banned because of their country or faith; that is discrimination, and the fact that the West Midland Police force constructed and created false evidence, also hiding reports concerning Maccabi fans to support their case for banning, is shameful. It has been claimed it was done done in the cause of 'communality', to protect the residents, but in that case the Palestinian protests outside the stadium should also have been prevented.

Iam64 Sun 18-Jan-26 13:29:27

I’m not disagreeing with your view eazybee but / I imagine attempts to ban pro Palestinian demonstrations anywhere would result in huge demonstrations

Rosie51 Sun 18-Jan-26 13:52:25

I imagine you're correct Iam64 about trying to ban a pro Palestine demonstration. That of course doesn't make it right, merely expedient, which is by implication totally wrong and undermines the rule of law.