Suella leaves the Sinking Ship

MaizieD 👏👏👏

I am not a Labour Party supporter, but, if they could do that I might be persuaded.

Primrose his biography is out of date and he is no longer in university employment! My point is he has no political experience at all! He might write books but that is totally different to dealing with constituents and their real life issues!

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD 👏👏👏

I am not a Labour Party supporter, but, if they could do that I might be persuaded.

So might I

MaizieD

^Oh this! Take heed Reformers- it was never about immigration but about unregulated power and greed.^
You have been used by them, and they will use you even more if you vote for them.

I don’t think there is any point in trying to convert people by pointing out the evils of their chosen party. They just double down on their allegiance.

I think that the best way to minimise allegiance to Farage and his despicable party would be for the government to very demonstrably do what it was voted in for. That is, act to reduce the cost of living, to restore the NHS, and to improve public services. Even, perhaps, to defend most of the population against the rapacity of those who seek to make money from them. Make life more comfortable and fulfilling for all citizens and they will be less susceptible to glib populism.

The problem is that this really requires a radical change in economic policy from the neoliberal market focussed strategy which has driven policies of all governments from Thatcher onwards. Unfortunately, both politicians, commentators and the general public are generally convinced that there is no alternative, so go on doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Neoliberalism is destroying our economy and our democracy.

Well said.
For decades the only people gaining any benefit from this country have been those at the top of the tree, ordinary citizens have been told time and again that they need to tighten their belts and suffer through the hard times because there is a hole in the economy and so ‘we’ effectively have to pay for a system that is rigged to always pubish the poor to pay the rich.
We desperately need the regulation Thatcher got rid of, to hold large corp to task and not just allow them free rein.
And we need to overhaul and replace a tax system that is not fit for purpose with enough loop holes to allow billions to fall through said holes into the pockets of those who can pay for accountants to make sure they never pay their dues.
The old chestnut that nothing will ever change or the threat that billionaire investors will run away keeps us all standing by the roadside pulling our fore locks in dumb obedience.
And of course illegal immigration keeps us too preoccupied to make a fuss.

People have consistently raised concerns about immigration since 2016 and before, they have voted for people they believed would act on their concerns for a decade ( with the exception of the current government which was a vote of fury against the tories) , the politicians then did nothing about these concerns. We can pretend that isn't the case but my guess is that won't help.

nanna8

I like Lee Anderson, he makes me laugh. Pity he’s not their leader.

People said that about Boris Johnson and that didn't turn out very well.

Allira

Photo Lee Anderson and Matt Goodwin just before setting out to try to find the constituency.

An idiot’s guide to running a byelection campaign. First, know your constituency boundaries. Sometimes easier said than done. On Tuesday morning, Lee Anderson was to be found doing a photo op for the Gorton and Denton byelection by posing outside the Stanley hotel. Which just happens to be in Angela Rayner’s constituency. Shame that someone pointed out Anderson’s mistake. He could happily have spent the next four weeks knocking on the wrong doors.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jan/27/reforms-matt-goodwin-is-sure-hes-the-right-man-for-gorton-and-denton-he-just-doesnt-know-why

Goodwin and 50p Lee, what a combination. John Crace spot on as usual.

It’s okay for you to write this from the safety of Australia nanna8 - have some pity on our sinking ship!!

IMO Reform is all about immigration and has very little to say about anything else other than to blame the country's problems on immigrants.

Read their manifesto. It was comprehensive, last time I looked.

Galaxy

People have consistently raised concerns about immigration since 2016 and before, they have voted for people they believed would act on their concerns for a decade ( with the exception of the current government which was a vote of fury against the tories) , the politicians then did nothing about these concerns. We can pretend that isn't the case but my guess is that won't help.

I agree with you as well Galaxy successive governments have been elected on their manifesto promises and the proceeded to ignore them and place the blame on all and sundry apart from themselves.

I wouldn’t like to see a Reform Government, but I am guessing that they will gain more MP’s at the next election, due to the they can’t be any worse than previous ones voter attitudes.

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD 👏👏👏

I am not a Labour Party supporter, but, if they could do that I might be persuaded.

- Have a look at Prosper U.K. sounds up your street.

As you saw Farage fawning around Trump, you see how rubbish sticks to rubbish. So now he is collecting more people like a magnet . Hopefully people will see how well they all go together. That is what they should do GO together, so that no one of the selfserving untrusty people are allowed any near governing this country. The only thing you can believe in, is that each of those people will be putting themselves first, before anyone or anything else.

Susieq62

Primrose his biography is out of date and he is no longer in university employment! My point is he has no political experience at all! He might write books but that is totally different to dealing with constituents and their real life issues!

Try this then but the other one lists all his achievements and experience

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Goodwin_(author)

fancythat

^IMO Reform is all about immigration and has very little to say about anything else other than to blame the country's problems on immigrants.^

Read their manifesto. It was comprehensive, last time I looked.

It was formally.withdraw two months after the election with Yusuf saying it was more a philosophy than policy details.

Since then Tice has walked back on the £90 billion of promised tax cuts admitting they were unrealistic.

Despite two party conferences since the GE, no policies have replaced them. In his press conference to unveil Braverman as his latest Tory signing Farage said, "Last year's UKIP (sic) conference was more of a festival that a conference."

All party no policy.

Primrose no sign of council/ local activity / voluntary work / knowledge of local issues !!
Just glorified right wing papers and books which doesn’t help the constituency he wants to represent! However, if you think he is the type of person you would like to have in Parliament then carry on believing his nasty messages! As I said, he only has one line, Immigration !!

I think people should look closely at how all the new Reform successes have got on, in the real world of actually doing the day job as promised.
That is the reality.

My current labour Mp and the labour mp who lost to the tories in the red wall election were both parachuted in with no knowledge of local issues. One of them has tried to become familiar with local issues, but it isn't an unusual thing amongst candidates of any party.

Falling star...your post at 8 40 am is the reason why the white, hard working class are voting for Reform... I'm referring to nurses, carers, shop workers and anyone else on minimum wage who is struggling to survive .
And who can blame them....the two main parties disregard them time after time. They want politicians to recognise that they contribute a great deal to the country quietly away but are made to feel second class and refered to as far right for wanting something to change.
I don't know if a Reform government would be a good idea but Labour and the Conservatives haven't done a great job either.

Dorisdodar

Falling star...your post at 8 40 am is the reason why the white, hard working class are voting for Reform... I'm referring to nurses, carers, shop workers and anyone else on minimum wage who is struggling to survive .
And who can blame them....the two main parties disregard them time after time. They want politicians to recognise that they contribute a great deal to the country quietly away but are made to feel second class and refered to as far right for wanting something to change.
I don't know if a Reform government would be a good idea but Labour and the Conservatives haven't done a great job either.

I get that Dorisdodar, this is why many others are prepared to vote for Reform, because other parties are not tackling issues effectively. It seems like the same old same old. But Reform is a reactionary party simply reacting to how badly other parties have done and to people’s fears, there is no real substance, and Farage is not known for improving anything other than his own pocket, as his constituents who have never seen the man could bear testimony to.
But your choice. And I respect that.

Nurses voting for Reform? Turkeys voting for Christmas comes to mind. Is that a bit like the 'Latinos for Trump' organisation, who now regret their support?

Moii

Graphite as someone who has over 500 in their town (both our hotels) I see reform as unfortunately the only option. We've had 2 charged for rape of children, we've had the police at the local primary school as they've been hanging around filming the children in the playground. I saw several last summer hanging around the park just staring at sunbathers, the town is suffering as people aren't going out the same in the evening. One confirmed resident went crazy at the local hospital threatening to kill the staff. Most of this is unreported and swept under the carpet. I don't trust labour or the Tories to sort this.

I find it a little difficult to believe that such events in your town were not reported. The DM would be all over them.
Which town is this?

Maremia

Nurses voting for Reform? Turkeys voting for Christmas comes to mind. Is that a bit like the 'Latinos for Trump' organisation, who now regret their support?

It’s fallen off the cliff after the ICE operations.

fancythat

^IMO Reform is all about immigration and has very little to say about anything else other than to blame the country's problems on immigrants.^

Read their manifesto. It was comprehensive, last time I looked.

And they’ve rolled back on many pledges already. Completely unachievable. It’s very, very easy to offer everyone what they want from opposition.

Search Izalden Alshaik Suleman Ashley hotel Hale, altrincham, we had German armed police removing him. Other being Hamed Mohamodie. It's covered up, even the mail aren't allowed to report it.

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fancythat

IMO Reform is all about immigration and has very little to say about anything else other than to blame the country's problems on immigrants.

Read their manifesto. It was comprehensive, last time I looked.

It was formally.withdraw two months after the election with Yusuf saying it was more a philosophy than policy details.

Since then Tice has walked back on the £90 billion of promised tax cuts admitting they were unrealistic.

Despite two party conferences since the GE, no policies have replaced them. In his press conference to unveil Braverman as his latest Tory signing Farage said, "Last year's UKIP (sic) conference was more of a festival that a conference."

All party no policy.

You are not the first Gransnetter[the last one was quite a regualr poster, though cant remember who], and wont be the last I assume, to seem to be completely out of date on this subject.

www.reformparty.uk/policies#policies-section