The U.K. has the third largest level of on line child sexual abuse in the world

How do you know this ? Who reports it ? It goes under the radar in many places ,perhaps the British are better at catching them and reporting them . For every filthy person caught I am certain there would be at least a dozen who get away with it.

TRIP had a podcast interviewing an American and British person at Davos who were there to bring world leaders attention to this appalling trade being carried out, nothing at present is stopping this trade.

It is known that 500000 children just in the Philippines are being exploited in this way.

The USA is number one for this abuse, not surprising given the President and Epstein.

There are no words adequate to express the absolute disgust and despair I feel at this.

Who ARE these vile, inhuman creatures sat cosy & faceless on their devices getting off on such suffering. Wish i could boil each and every one of the evil cowardly bastards in oil.

Well that is one possibility, the other is to constantly bring our MPs attention to this issue and demand this is dealt with.

One way apparently is to fit a device to phones to prevent the images of these children. I’ve no idea how that works.

At present these excuse for a human being can in real time direct what they want to be done to the child in front of the camera.

There is nothing to stop them, and they are doing it on the “open” web - not the dark web.

Whitewavemark2

TRIP had a podcast interviewing an American and British person at Davos who were there to bring world leaders attention to this appalling trade being carried out, nothing at present is stopping this trade.

It is known that 500000 children just in the Philippines are being exploited in this way.

The USA is number one for this abuse, not surprising given the President and Epstein.

It is known that 500000 children just in the Philippines are being exploited in this way.

I was so shocked by this number that I checked but, yes, it is not a typo!

It's appalling and needs far more resources to be put towards stopping this evil trade. Perhaps an international effort would be more effective.

Apparently the Philippine children are targeted because they speak English.

Yes, Whitewave, you're right, it's no good just expressing horror without taking action.

Is this accurate ? I can see a list of countries on this subject, the UK doesn't appear in top ten, and USA is 8th, with obvious countries like Iran, Philippines featuring highly.
I also find it really weird that the Netherlands seem to produce 60 % of this horeendoys material within EU countries, God alone knows what is behind that statistics.

This is rubbish however bad it is in the UK it’s far worse in developing countries but there is so much corruption it gets covered up
The police in the UK know pretty much what’s going on, given more resources the SS and police could do a lot more but they haven’t so they can’t

Much as I deplore this, I'm always bit wary of statistics. There may be other countries which don't record onl sa in the same way if at all. Having said that, the government could do more I'm sure. As could the likes of Facebook and Twitter

To register your voice against this appalling trade - no matter which country ranks where in this vile top ten - go to ijmuk.eaction.org.uk
(sorry not to have the tech to supply a direct link).

David49

This is rubbish however bad it is in the UK it’s far worse in developing countries but there is so much corruption it gets covered up
The police in the UK know pretty much what’s going on, given more resources the SS and police could do a lot more but they haven’t so they can’t

How do you know that David49, online abuse is presumably tracked by comparing data by country?

My memory may or may not be playing tricks but a few years ago wasn’t there at least one mainstream MP who was all for sex with children or as it should be called child abuse being made legal in the U.K. ?

It is appalling and unthinkable what these children go through. What are the internet platforms doing to prevent this? They must have algorithms to find and locate these vile individuals abusing and those sick b*##*rds paying to watch.

We visited Thailand 17 years ago, and it was a common sight for old (usually fat and ugly) western men with obviously underage Thai girls (and in some cases boys) openly walking around holding hands and/or plying them with drink in the seedier bars. We vowed never to return to that part. Whilst there ant talking to hotel staff, we found out that it is common practice for the eldest child, whatever their gender to be sent to this town from their villages around 14/15 years of age, sometimes younger, basically sold into prostitution.

We were so relieved when we moved on to our next base, out of this main town.

I imagine recording data with regard to sexual abuse of children online is not really happening in developing countries. And in a country like Iran it will be swept under the carpet.
Really don’t care what place we are in on the sex abuse league table, the fact is as a nation we need to get our own house in order. Tbh am disgusted that nothing much is ever done to police online content and to track down the culprits. The recent attempts by parents trying to view what their children were looking at online before
Committing suicide just underlines this, and the mother of a boy - Jude - who committed suicide after going online is trying to bring about Jude’s Law to make it law that online activity a child is viewing before committing suicide is preserved and made available. But why is this mother having to fight all the way??
Our children are no longer at as much risk on the local playground but in their bedroom when going online. There are monsters hiding on the internet in plain sight, the very lowest of the low, and they can get away with almost anything because governments are not taking the people who are responsible for the sites allowing this to court for not safeguarding our children.
Zuckerberg refuses to accept any responsibility and says his social media site is safe which is absolute unadulterated BS.

I actually think that there is probably some use in knowing which countries figure highly in these statistics because it might help us to analyse why that might be. I understand why Iran would figure highly, but why the Netherlands. Why would that be and how would that information help us to safeguard.

What must be done is to stop these lowlife from the ability to access the children.

It is possible - people know better than me - but is not being done at present.

Because we will never stop these people with such skewed brains from carrying out their evil acts by any other means.

Whitewavemark2

What must be done is to stop these lowlife from the ability to access the children.

It is possible - people know better than me - but is not being done at present.

Because we will never stop these people with such skewed brains from carrying out their evil acts by any other means.

That’s the bit that I just cannot understand why are the internet platforms not blocking these sites?

They must have the algorithms and programs to be able to do so.

If the low life’s are paying to watch the abuse, surely their card payments can be traced?

It’s difficult now to purchase anything online as the majority of banks/card providers ask for two authentication methods.

GranyGravy
I can only comment on Meta.
The moderates don’t work for Meta. That work is contracted out.
Listening to a moderator working in Kenya he explained that because of the long hours that are demanded from them they switch off, therefore missing an awful lot of inappropriate content.
Regarding payment. It’s more than likely that this is paid by BitCoin.

GrannyGravy13

My memory may or may not be playing tricks but a few years ago wasn’t there at least one mainstream MP who was all for sex with children or as it should be called child abuse being made legal in the U.K. ?

It is appalling and unthinkable what these children go through. What are the internet platforms doing to prevent this? They must have algorithms to find and locate these vile individuals abusing and those sick b*##*rds paying to watch.

We visited Thailand 17 years ago, and it was a common sight for old (usually fat and ugly) western men with obviously underage Thai girls (and in some cases boys) openly walking around holding hands and/or plying them with drink in the seedier bars. We vowed never to return to that part. Whilst there ant talking to hotel staff, we found out that it is common practice for the eldest child, whatever their gender to be sent to this town from their villages around 14/15 years of age, sometimes younger, basically sold into prostitution.

We were so relieved when we moved on to our next base, out of this main town.

I well remember, many years ago now on our first visit to Bangkok, seeing tiny little Thai girls who TBH looked no more than about 12, walking down city centre streets with gross, fat, paunchy old European men - all quite openly.

This was in the mid 70s - long before the general availability of the internet - goodness knows how much more of it goes on now.

As pps have said, in a good many countries so much abuse will be ignored, or swept under the carpet.

Why are you holding government to account rather than the tech giants that profit?

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Sadly, we are delusional if we think any government has the slightest control over the internet, other than those which are led by a dictator who does not allow access.

OP- 'Nothing at present is being done to stop this. Government authorities must be held to account to stop this.'

I respectfully disagree that nothing is done to prevent the downloading and distribution of online indecent images involving children under 18 or none consenting adults. There are laws detailing categories of indecent images, and making it illegal to do download and distribute.

I go into police stations supporting children and vulnerable adults before, during and after their police interviews when arrested for such crimes. I explain bail conditions of what dark web sites they are not allowed to access whilst awaiting trial.

The LAW thus holds individuals accountable. The government seeks to hold internet providers accountable via things like legislating for the Online Safety bill- you read the push back in the media. I don't easily see how any government of any party persuasion, can be held accountable for the exponential growth of illegal downloading and distribution of pornographic images of children and individuals that download and distribute illegally. All suggestions welcome.