Starmer abandons plans to cancel local elections

Is that the Royal ‘we’ Casdon ? I ask as there are many posts that don’t agree with you either on the subject ofLabour wanting to cancel local elections.Telling councils that they needn’t bother if they don’t want to, citing cost and boundary changes in a year when the more likely reason is fear this year that Reform will do well was always going to cause problems.

Good to hear that👍🏻 AGAA4

fancythat

I am getting I have no idea what you are talking about?

I will spell things out.

No, Labour quite likely[well almost definite!! wasnt pure!].

Reform may not be either.

Some posters think 1 would cancel out the other, It does not.

Does not in any aspect of life.
Mums often try to say of their wayward son, "well look at Tommy ov er there,>"He is worse than my son".

What difference does that make to anything?!!!
It certainly does not exonerte the first wayward son.
How on earth could it possibly.

Not going to bother to reply to your last 6 words.
It is like the "I know what you are thinking" stuff. Which is nearly always a load of rubbish.

Seriously, I rest my case. You have made your point. We don’t agree with you. You are not either right or wrong, however many times you say exactly the same thing in different words, Round and round we will keep going otherwise.

Ladyfungi59a

No. 10 is broken. Starmer is unable to make decisive decisions which is his job as PM. He rolls his sleeves up to pretend he is just one of the boys but all it does is make him look
laughable and absurd as it's all a big act. He cares more about his party than us the people. We've had Conservatives and Labour, let's give Reform a chance.

I even question how much he cares about the Party.
He is wrecking it.

Yes, it is broken.

Personally, I no longer think he can limp to May.
Just maybe, with a good wind.

James Orr

I am fascinated by the appointment of Richard Orr to Reform. A committed Christian with attitudes of a bygone era. Also professor at Cambridge and a friend of the murdered Charlie Kirk.
Interesting appointment in these times.

I am getting I have no idea what you are talking about?

I will spell things out.

No, Labour quite likely[well almost definite!! wasnt pure!].

Reform may not be either.

Some posters think 1 would cancel out the other, It does not.

Does not in any aspect of life.
Mums often try to say of their wayward son, "well look at Tommy ov er there,>"He is worse than my son".

What difference does that make to anything?!!!
It certainly does not exonerte the first wayward son.
How on earth could it possibly.

Not going to bother to reply to your last 6 words.
It is like the "I know what you are thinking" stuff. Which is nearly always a load of rubbish.

No. 10 is broken. Starmer is unable to make decisive decisions which is his job as PM. He rolls his sleeves up to pretend he is just one of the boys but all it does is make him look
laughable and absurd as it's all a big act. He cares more about his party than us the people. We've had Conservatives and Labour, let's give Reform a chance.

Ah I see fancy that so you can say Labour wasn't pure and only your view is valid.

AGAA4

Reform's motive for this may not be pure either.

They might, but as I have said before[ha], when does two "wrongs" make a right.
Never!

How could it?

You are not the only poster who uses that method of things.

Casdon

You keep saying the same thing fancythat, you’re going round in circles. You do have to accept that not everybody thinks you’re right.

You have said that already!

Reform's motive for this may not be pure either.

You keep saying the same thing fancythat, you’re going round in circles. You do have to accept that not everybody thinks you’re right.

Depends on the reason for wanting them cancelled.

And we all know that might not be pure.

Casdon well said.

fancythat

As I read elsewhere, some people want to put cost before democracy.

I think some people believe that spending twice on elections within a year is a waste of money, yes. It’s hardly a threat to democracy, given our democracy has survived for hundreds of years with a number of local elections being cancelled. You are taking a purist view, which is not the only measure.

Imagine the "cost" when there isnt democracy!

Well we dont have to look far around the world to see how that pans out!

I sometimes think there only seem to be about 20 Countries with it still more or less intact.

The rest are corrupt.

As I read elsewhere, some people want to put cost before democracy.

This is costing us a fortune! Well done Reform again!!!!
Oh and they now have a “ cabinet” 😱😂
I was under the impression that only the opposition had a cabinet but then Farage gets away with everything as long as the press and media fawn after him !!

Casdon

No, I was in the NHS. Every change of government meant structural change and new, additional targets which increased the bureaucracy.
My dad used to work for a multi national engineering company, and I can remember when he retired he told me that when you see the structure reverting back to the one that was there when you first started was the time to leave. I now know he was right.

Sadly, I believe this happens in every single govt department, remember starting in the DWP in 2009, my “buddy” ran through things with me, then wryly state “don’t worry, I’ve been here over 30 years, things will constantly change, for better or worse, until we start right back again where we were” I was there 15 years, he was right!

GrannyGravy13

I imagine this is all to do with the new Unitary Authorities being formed and boundary changes.

Our local elections were cancelled last year, and I think were due to be cancelled again this year.

I believe this is so

Casdon

No, I was in the NHS. Every change of government meant structural change and new, additional targets which increased the bureaucracy.
My dad used to work for a multi national engineering company, and I can remember when he retired he told me that when you see the structure reverting back to the one that was there when you first started was the time to leave. I now know he was right.

Yes he was right. Change can be good but it is disruptive and expensive and when you see the wheel being reinvented a little bit of hope dies.

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Elsi

Why did you do that?

You need to bake it clear which post you are replying to Elsi.

Why did you do that?