Huntley and comeuppance

MOnica, I share your views on this, as do some others posting

I was surprised by Momac55 telling you to get off your high horse. Those of us who don’t share vindictuve attitudes have as much right to contribute.

Prison staff have tough jobs. Prisons function because inmates generally comply with routines and expectations.

rafichagran

It pains me to say it but on balance I agree with Monica.
When I first heard my reaction was, who cares good. However I thought about it and wanting people hurt, even vile murderers like Huntley, makes me no better than the knitters at the guillotine in the Frech revolution.

Totally agree. Similar thoughts myself when I saw the news but then life imprisonment is surely harsh enough.

I agree with Monica. People are sent to prison as punishment not for punishment.

However, M0nica, many of us have also been at pains to stress that we do appreciate the difference between that visceral response to want someone who has committed the most heinous of crimes to suffer in the way their victims did, while at the same time knowing on a more logical, even intellectual level, that we cannot act on those impulses and must allow the rule of law to take it course.

I am truly saddened by this thread. So many posters who based on their previous posts, I respected , showing such vindictive attitudes.

I find the crimes of child killers as vile as anyone else, but we have in impartial and objective law system in this country. As i said before seeing so many here adapting the attitudes of lynch mobs, explains to me how so many ordinary people in oppressive regimes are so prepared to torture and kill people that they think have transgressed their laws.

It was reported in the article I read that last year Huntley bought a Manchester United red football shirt with the No 10 printed on it, just like the two beautiful girls he killed. When you think he has sunk to his lowest he does something like that. I never agreed with the short sentence his accomplice received. She has been out of prison for years, has a husband and child, after costing us thousands for cosmetic and dental surgery to change her appearance. Shameful

Good. Hope he suffers.

I agree grandmabatty, we currently have no evidence it was due to staff failings. Trying to control violent men is an almost impossible task.

I do not condone the attack on Huntley nor do I applaud his attacker who was a multiple murderer and rapist himself. I would think that there are more attacks happen in prison that go unheard. It's Huntleys notoriety which meant we heard about this. Prisons are full of violent people who have committed serious crimes therefore its no surprise. I take issue with the comment about prison officers turning their backs. It seems to me that it's an unfair indictment on people working in a highly charged, stressful environment who do their best to maintain a calm atmosphere.
It is easy for me to condemn this attack on a heinous man when I haven't, personally, lost any family to violence. I suppose I could be accused of hypocrisy

Probably right Labrador’s. Lethal injections probably too easy to deal with these paedo killers- best leaving them to always be looking over their shoulders.

I don't have any sympathy for Huntley but these sorts of incidents don't bring the girls back and they seem to me to be just more violence and more evil.
BBC has reported Huntley as being still alive although seriously injured and his assailant , a man called Russell , I think, himself has killed three people. It's a prison housing many very serious offenders.
I feel sorry for the Prison Staff having to manage these people. Imagine what they might do to anyone who crosses them.
Also it's costing the British Taxpayer even more money with the medical resources that Huntley has taken up.
"A long and dangerous sentence " is exactly what Mr Huntley is getting , I think.

I think they should give child killers a lethal injection 100%, especially if they have DNA evidence & they admit their guilt.
If he had done that to my grandchild what he did to those two little girls, I would be first in the queue to pull the lever, no question!
Instead we have to feed & keep these vile monsters 😩

Tuliptree

Pantglas2

In this short thread you’ve mentioned numerous cases of miscarriage of justice so why not open your own thread on that theme rather than try and suggest Huntley is undeserving of rough justice from his fellow cons.

Most convicts won’t tolerate crimes against children and in this instance and that other paedophile Ian Watkins I will sleep easy regardless of anyone’s opinion.

No one is deserving of the lynch mob. And I’m puzzled as to why anyone would automatically assume that any prisoner had the right to decide which of their fellow prisoners they had the right to attack. Some of these attacks anyway are not actually related to the type of crime the attacked prisoner has committed but to personal disputes, drug supplies, mobile phones and so on.

Some of these attacks anyway are not actually related to the type of crime the attacked prisoner has committed but to personal disputes, drug supplies, mobile phones and so on.

I'm glad you mentioned that.

Is there an assumption that this attack was somehow justice for Holly and Jessica? - from what I've understood such attacks are often more to do with petty disputes between viscous and violent inmates.

I'm certainly not going to shed any tears if Huntley dies, but condoning mob-rule is ridiculous - and these inmates are possibly violent thugs themselves. Or maybe some see lawlessness as justice?

Maybe disapproving the attack is seen as sympathy for Huntley - I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Personally, I'm not thinking about his welfare, I'm concerned about our prisons descending into mayhem.

I feel sorry for the prison officers who have to work with depraved individuals on a daily basis, they should be safe in their role, but they are often in the middle of prison violence. What about the relatives of the 3 people raped/ murdered by Huntleys’s attacker when people are saying give him a medal etc? He and Huntley are both the lowest of the low, but we shouldn’t be encouraging yet more male violence.

Bazza

I read that Huntley was kept in a single occupancy cell with a bed, toilet and basin as well as a kettle, and a tv with a dvd player and a games console which you earned with good behaviour. It didn’t sound much like a punishment to me. My boarding school was a lot worse!

How many decades were you there without ever going home? Not the same thing.

undines

It seems to me there is a world of difference between being unable to suppress a feeling of satisfaction when such a person gets hurt, and actually condoning it, ideologically. One is an emotion, the other a moral choice. Violent emotional reactions towards child-killers are understandable, but the whole point of the Justice System is that we do not act on the basis of such.

That's a good explanation.

M0nica

What vile comments. Huntley committed his heinous crimes, was arrested tried and convicted and is now serving his sentence with other people who have probably committed eually heinnous crimes - the man that committed those two child murders in Brighton for example - .

That is sufficient. To hear other people who no doubt consider themselves, and are, kind loving people baying for blood like a small town lynch mob, brings fear to my heart. is that what everyone is at heart?

Get off your high horse Monica the monster deserves all he gets

NannaBarbra

I lived in this small Fenland town at the time this heinous crime took place, my Granddaughter went to school with the victims and I was on quite friendly terms with one of the parents.
Although nothing can possible compare with what those beautiful little girls went through and subsequently what their parents have to live with, EVERYONE it that town was affected in some way and still is today.
Ian Huntley has caused pain, grief, depression, anxiety and much more in so many people but I still don't want him dead, I want him to live well into his 90s and suffer the consequences of his horrific actions every single minute of every single day

Couldn’t agree more Nannabarbra

Get off your high horse the monster deserves all he gets

The thing is, no matter how much physical pain Huntley has to endure, he will not be subject to the heart-stopping terror those innocent little girls experienced. I, too, wish him a long, interesting and fear-filled life ... and if that makes me a terrible person, then so be it.

Bukkie

Mrsgreenfingers - I am with you. And for those of you talking about miscarriage of justice I do understand your point but with Ian Huntley there is no doubt he killed those girls. And to add insult to injury he seemed to love his 15 minutes of fame appearing on the news pretending he was looking for them when all along he knew what he had done and where they were.

No false sympathy from me either.Child killers usually get a hard time in prison, understandably.

I read that Huntley was kept in a single occupancy cell with a bed, toilet and basin as well as a kettle, and a tv with a dvd player and a games console which you earned with good behaviour. It didn’t sound much like a punishment to me. My boarding school was a lot worse!

I lived in this small Fenland town at the time this heinous crime took place, my Granddaughter went to school with the victims and I was on quite friendly terms with one of the parents.
Although nothing can possible compare with what those beautiful little girls went through and subsequently what their parents have to live with, EVERYONE it that town was affected in some way and still is today.
Ian Huntley has caused pain, grief, depression, anxiety and much more in so many people but I still don't want him dead, I want him to live well into his 90s and suffer the consequences of his horrific actions every single minute of every single day

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Tuliptree

A very sensible, humane and Christian outlook.

(The abuser becoming the abused is NEVER acceptable, no matter what the scenario is)
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I agree with M0nica.