Huntley and comeuppance

Flippin2

I don't condone violence but I can't express sympathy for Huntley,he took the lives of those little girls,they were innocent,he has been proven guilty

I agree. Of course, like most, if not all of us, I don’t condone “mob rule” however, the reason so many people are in our prisons, putting strains on staffing and safeguarding, is partially due to our lack of both restorative justice and rehabilitation.

Our entire prison and justice system needs a huge review and shake up.

Do I feel sorry for Huntley, no, do I condone the other prisoners violence, no!

Huntley is a dangerous man and I’m sure if someone like him should ever be released. Prison is so much more than a punishment, members of the public should also be safeguarded, too many violent prisoners have been released and then offended, raped and murdered again!

Absolutely horrendous job maremia.
My friend’s daughter is a warden, trying her best to get another job after another warden was stabbed. She is absolutely frightened to death of going into work.
They deserve every penny they earn.

Tuliptree

‘Do-gooder’ is such a nasty, slimey, unpleasant phrase which speaks volumes about those who use it.

Good grief, something with which I actually agree.

It’s a horrible phrase, you’ve summed it up very well!

No one should have to feel that way about their job.

Sally Clarke was convicted using misleading expert witness evidence, non- disclosure of forensic evidence and completely wrong statistical interpretation

That was completely wrong and shocking in that forensic evidence should have been available to her defence team as the law had already been changed to ensure that happened a couple of years before her case. Roy Meadow withheld vital evidence which could have cleared her.

Sally Clarke was not the only mother convicted on his flawed evidence.

Allira

^Sally Clarke was convicted using misleading expert witness evidence, non- disclosure of forensic evidence and completely wrong statistical interpretation^

That was completely wrong and shocking in that forensic evidence should have been available to her defence team as the law had already been changed to ensure that happened a couple of years before her case. Roy Meadow withheld vital evidence which could have cleared her.

Sally Clarke was not the only mother convicted on his flawed evidence.

Roy Meadows got his statistics completely wrong -it was an utter disgrace. The two doctors mentioned here have her blood on their hands. She wasn’t attacked in prison but had to face a great deal of hostility

Meadows thought he was so jolly clever that he could work out statistics with no thought to perhaps consulting a statistician . An arrogant , ignorant man.

foxie48

I don't have any sympathy for Huntley but I certainly don't want him or any other offenders being attacked and injured in prison. What sort of world do some of you want to live in? We have laws, courts and at least some sort of justice system, it seems some would prefer a system which condones violence to others. I most certainly don't. People do really bad things but it seems in some people's eyes, if you do "really bad things" to some people, it's acceptable. No, it's not.

Yes, I agree.

Skye17

foxie48

I don't have any sympathy for Huntley but I certainly don't want him or any other offenders being attacked and injured in prison. What sort of world do some of you want to live in? We have laws, courts and at least some sort of justice system, it seems some would prefer a system which condones violence to others. I most certainly don't. People do really bad things but it seems in some people's eyes, if you do "really bad things" to some people, it's acceptable. No, it's not.

Yes, I agree.

So do I.
I am truly horrified that people can think that mob rule in prison is a good thing - if it is against bad people.

Son25

Monica we cannot help the fact that inmates in jail turn to violence against Huntley, he is the ultimate monster, would you want to live with him or would be happy to live out your days and dine with him daily, treat him with respect and say he’s okay and serving his time, not everyone can do that and thank god

I am not sure where this came from. I haven't made any comments relevant.

I just deplored the lynch mentality of some posts on this thread. Huntley committed appalling crimes, was tried and sentenced and is now in prison,which is where he should be, with people who have committed eually heinous crimes.

As for what has happened to him recently while in prison. I have made no comment at all. Except, I suppose that the comments about lynch mobs applies to those in prison with him, as well as those outside. But considering that he is, as I have said , in prison with others who have committed similar crimes. It seems the attackers are themselves as guilty of similar crimes as the attacked.

One killer in prison killing another killer.What’s not to like?

Not that he is dead btw.

Surely our prisons should be safe for both staff and inmates. However they are woefully short staffed due to austerity. How on earth did a violent prisoner get hold of an iron bar? That could have just as easily be used against a prison officer.

vegansrock

Surely our prisons should be safe for both staff and inmates. However they are woefully short staffed due to austerity. How on earth did a violent prisoner get hold of an iron bar? That could have just as easily be used against a prison officer.

Exactly this - if prisons are safe then they are safe for staff and prisoners. If there are plenty of staff to supervise a range of activities, then generally everyone benefits. The role of a prison officer is not only more dangerous but also less rewarding when resources are as they are now.

One part of me does like Ian Huntley being assaulted or killed. A stronger part of me wants the rule of law to apply everywhere, not just outside prisons. So that’s what I don’t like about someone assaulting him: the rule of law has been broken.

The punishment society gives is deprivation of liberty – not being prey to any other prisoner who wants to assault or murder you.

Outside prison we expect people who have strong feelings to restrain themselves from attacking others. I think the same should apply inside prison.

Apologies if similar has already been said; I haven’t got time to read the whole thread.

My take on this is that it would be better all round if Huntley dies; seems that he will be brain damaged if he does survive. Also I don’t believe that other prisoners have the right to dish out their own punishment. The vile creature that attacked Huntley is a monster himself and has murdered 3 people including a pregnant woman. These inmates do these attacks for notoriety within the prison population, they certainly don’t do it out of some moral outrage.

I read online that Huntley's mum has visited him in hospital but has said it would be best if he died. Poor lady.

mumofmadboys I agree, we are inclined to forget the relatives left behind who have to return to work or whatever after their monster brother, father son or whoever has done unspeakable injuries to another.

I wouldn't hang or euthanise him, but I wouldn't lose a night's sleep.

Prison violence makes it less safe for the workers as well. Do they not matter?

Maremia

Prison violence makes it less safe for the workers as well. Do they not matter?

See my post at 12.07

Perhaps if these dangerous prisoners weren’t allowed to make weapons in the workshops, had no access to metal bars, lumps of wood and large nails or kettles of boiling water life would be safer for both inmates and prison officers.

The Prison Officers do not control policy. They have to cope with the decisions made by their Managers.

Time for them to issue some sensible decisions on policies.

Dennis Nilsen confessed to murdering 15 men,he boiled, buried body parts.
His mother travelled from Scotland every month to visit him,
she was asked why, her reply “he is my son”

Anniebach

Dennis Nilsen confessed to murdering 15 men,he boiled, buried body parts.
His mother travelled from Scotland every month to visit him,
she was asked why, her reply “he is my son”

Absolutely I'd do the same but I hope and pray I never find myself in her position.