Israel and US hit Iran

mum2three

Something had to be done. Shipping in the Red Sea has been targeted by terrorists, funded by Iran (so we are told). This affects everyone, not just Israel.
Starmer/ Blair might now find out how foolish it was to allow migrants from all cultures to settle in Britain. They were so set on turning our country multi-racial that they didn't consider the consequences. How many 'sleepers' have been welcomed in and allowed to roam our streets gathering information to send back to their leaders?

I havent thought for a while that Startmer in particular, has the best interests of the Uk at heart.
The longer he is in power, the more I think that.

I dont know whether he appeases some Countries, tries to deal with them in financial terms. Or worse.

All the Gulf states didn't want a war but Iran attacked them regardless, being neutral hasn't helped them

That has surprised me too.
I dont understand that.
Not that I know that much about Middle East politics.

Agreed WW!

If our sons, daughters, husbands and wives mums and dads are being exposed to danger, death and maiming then at the very least our political representatives should debate the subject and come to a collective conclusion.

Something had to be done. Shipping in the Red Sea has been targeted by terrorists, funded by Iran (so we are told). This affects everyone, not just Israel.
Starmer/ Blair might now find out how foolish it was to allow migrants from all cultures to settle in Britain. They were so set on turning our country multi-racial that they didn't consider the consequences. How many 'sleepers' have been welcomed in and allowed to roam our streets gathering information to send back to their leaders?

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Here it is:

jeremycorbyn
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I have tabled a Bill to require Parliamentary approval for the foreign use of British military bases.

We must learn the lessons of the past — and stop our Prime Minister from dragging Britain into another catastrophic, illegal war.

There is more to it than that, but I agree with him (for once!).

Decisions about war should be properly debated.
Trump has ignored this requirement.

Samwam apologies. On re-reading your post, it appears you have not misunderstood Corbyn’s proposal.

My mistake.

LizzieDrip

Samwam I think you’ve misunderstood what Jeremy Corbyn’s proposal actually means. You need to read up on it!

That is part of Jeremy Corbyn's proposal, yes.

Samwam I think you’ve misunderstood what Jeremy Corbyn’s proposal actually means. You need to read up on it!

America and Israel are illegally carpet bombing a city of over ten million people and our government is providing ‘defensive’ support.

These are war crimes and, once again, we are on the wrong side of history.

Jeremy Corbyn has tabled a bill to require parliamentary approval for foreign use of UK military bases. Good.

ronib

No foxie48 if the Uk was truly neutral, then no bases should be used. The Iranians then would have no reason to attack them.

All the Gulf states didn't want a war but Iran attacked them regardless, being neutral hasn't helped them. The main issue is who will stop first, if Iran negotiates it could be over soon, if Iran is defiant how long will the US keep a blockade going.

No foxie48 if the Uk was truly neutral, then no bases should be used. The Iranians then would have no reason to attack them.

ronib

If it’s an illegal war, then the UK shouldn’t allow the USA to use any of its bases for aircraft to land or takeoff? Feels a bit muddy?

If it's being used for defensive purposes rather than offensive it is perfectly acceptable and sensible. There is a huge difference between using military resources to intercept aggressive attacks and using military forces to launch aggressive attacks. Surely you want our bases and military protected?

Our countries are still allies only it seems if we do what Trump wants and with friends like that, who needs enemies.

Casdon I am not the one making these decisions. My going round in circles ??

Iam64

It is very muddy. The govt walking a fine line in dealing with an unstable, unpredictable, war mongering Potus. Our countries have been allies.
Remember Vietnam and Harold Wilson who kept us out of that doomed and unnecessary blood bath

How about the unstable, unpredictable and war mongering regime in Iran?
Our countries are still allies ( UK and US) not ‘have been’.

ronib. Can you clearly state what your viewpoint is, which would save going round in circles?

On Channel 4 news last night it was said that Iranian and Iraqi Kurds could help US over turn the regime. Echoes of the Iraq war and the war in Syria here, neither of which ended well. Also the regime periodically kills Iranian Kurds and will no doubt massacre them now, as well as any Iraqi Kurds. And the majority of Iranians would never power share with Kurds anyway so a civil war could ensue.
As ever Kurds are used like pawns by the US, which promptly dropped them like hot potatoes after they helped fight ISIS.

But we have half joined in by allowing our bases to be used by American aeroplanes….

This war has absolutely nothing to do with improving the lives of ordinary Iranians or protecting the US. It has everything to do with clearing the Middle East of those that the Israeli government see as a threat to their security. I am very concerned that Iranian and Lebanese citizens will be seen as justifiable collateral, just like the Gazans. I sincerely hope that I am wrong but nothing that I have seen or heard so far from the Israeli and US spokespeople give me confidence that this will not be the case. Below is the Headline in today's Washington Post.
"From Hamas attack to U.S. war with Iran, violence forges a new Middle East"

ronib

Starmer can’t join with Israel and USA as we don’t have the resources to fight.

That isn’t the reason though ronib. We wouldn’t join on Trump’s terms in these circumstances even we had many more resources.

It is very muddy. The govt walking a fine line in dealing with an unstable, unpredictable, war mongering Potus. Our countries have been allies.
Remember Vietnam and Harold Wilson who kept us out of that doomed and unnecessary blood bath

If it’s an illegal war, then the UK shouldn’t allow the USA to use any of its bases for aircraft to land or takeoff? Feels a bit muddy?

Not intervening was nothing to do with Iranian women either.