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The stupidity of Netanyahu and Trump

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Caleo Mon 02-Mar-26 10:27:22

Either Netanyahu and Trump are stupid , or they are mad.

Was Hitler mad or stupid? Are some forms of stupidity a sort of madness?

David49 Tue 03-Mar-26 12:36:01

imaround

I just realized my post was confusing. The US has never cancelled an election during war time. Other countries have, like Europe during WWII, have.

The UK agreed a national government in WW2, the homeland US was not under attack so an election was possible.

Maremia Tue 03-Mar-26 12:12:00

Would be a different story if it was to be Barron's boots 'on the ground'
The Trumps have never served their country.

Cossy Tue 03-Mar-26 11:27:02

Allira

I wonder what it feels like to sit, safe in your huge, opulent office, ordering the destruction of people thousands of miles away, as if it's just a computer game?
Does it appeal to his ego?

I think he sees it as a game, sadly!

Cossy Tue 03-Mar-26 11:24:10

Iam64

Will it promote the American people to demonstrate against their regime, like those brave people in Iran ?

Why did the Generals follow orders into an illegal war

If only …..

David49 Tue 03-Mar-26 11:21:52

Hitler was mad and stupid he could probably have conquered all of Western Europe and retained it but abandoning the Battle of Britain and turning on Russia sealed his fate.

There are many parallels between Hitler and Iran both are ruled by fanatics any one who dares to oppose them is killed or jailed, even when the allies were entering Berlin they would no surrender.

All we can hope for is a faction in Irans army that is willing to oppose the government but no indication yet.

Fallingstar Tue 03-Mar-26 11:10:57

I agree lixy, Netanyahu has a very useful idiot in Trump, he has gone along with Netanyahu’s wishes to flatten Iran which other presidents have been careful to avoid at all costs.
My worry right now isn’t that Iran has nukes, their capability was destroyed in previous strikes, but o do worry about Israel having nukes. The way I see it, anything is possible right now. And that is beyond terrifying.

imaround Tue 03-Mar-26 11:10:13

I just realized my post was confusing. The US has never cancelled an election during war time. Other countries have, like Europe during WWII, have.

imaround Tue 03-Mar-26 11:08:47

Bagsatti. So they say. This is a great little educational video that explains it.

www.battlefields.org/learn/videos/untold/wartime-elections-united-states

Basgetti Tue 03-Mar-26 11:00:41

imaround

His approval rating is on a downward spiral.

www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker

We had elections during the Civil War, in fact. No election has ever been cancelled during war time. At home or abroad. IMO, he and Elon are more apt to cheat to win through voting machine hacking than anything else.

Even during WW2? Pretty certain there were no elections in Britain, Europe and the Far East. Happy to be corrected.

Caleo Tue 03-Mar-26 10:57:37

Basgetti

mae13

What in Heavens name compels men to rush to the destruct and destroy option to try and solve a problem?

Is it testosterone that pushes them down the worst possible path? Or - as is now blindingly obvious in Trump's case - the most toxic form of mental deviance?

Money and a desire to stay out of prison.

Am I correct in thinking that there would not be an election whilst the US were involved in a war?

Call me an old cynic…..

I call you realistic.

imaround Tue 03-Mar-26 10:52:16

His approval rating is on a downward spiral.

www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker

We had elections during the Civil War, in fact. No election has ever been cancelled during war time. At home or abroad. IMO, he and Elon are more apt to cheat to win through voting machine hacking than anything else.

Fallingstar Tue 03-Mar-26 10:41:03

Wyllow3

Checked it out.

They are, in many news sources, discussing the "Effect of the war on the Mid Terms", so I think the answer is no, the election won't be stopped.

Rather, Trump is hoping it will increase his popularity?

We lived in the US for a brief time many years ago and have family out there and I know that Americans are generally not in favour of a President playing war games when there isn’t a direct threat to themselves and would rather a President attends to domestic issues. The amount of money that war will cost, as well as the real chance that the cost of living will go up as a result of the war, and the fact that some service personnel are being flown home in body bags with the chance of boots on the ground, will imho not increase Trump’s popularity but have the opposite effect.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 03-Mar-26 10:33:23

Israel is now putting troops on the ground in Lebanon

This is gradually spreading.

AGAA4 Tue 03-Mar-26 10:20:13

I think he was playing golf during the initial attack.
Dangerous game golf. Shows how brave he is.

Smileless2012 Tue 03-Mar-26 10:14:57

If only that was unbelievable butterandjam.

butterandjam Tue 03-Mar-26 00:55:02

Allira

I wonder what it feels like to sit, safe in your huge, opulent office, ordering the destruction of people thousands of miles away, as if it's just a computer game?
Does it appeal to his ego?

He wasn't even in his office; unbelievably he started a new war from the comfort of home in Florida. Probably on a sunlounger.

mae13 Tue 03-Mar-26 00:31:12

Basgetti

mae13

What in Heavens name compels men to rush to the destruct and destroy option to try and solve a problem?

Is it testosterone that pushes them down the worst possible path? Or - as is now blindingly obvious in Trump's case - the most toxic form of mental deviance?

Money and a desire to stay out of prison.

Am I correct in thinking that there would not be an election whilst the US were involved in a war?

Call me an old cynic…..

You're an old cynic and so am I.

It's also known as "we've been here before......"

Basgetti Tue 03-Mar-26 00:13:09

Wyllow3

Checked it out.

They are, in many news sources, discussing the "Effect of the war on the Mid Terms", so I think the answer is no, the election won't be stopped.

Rather, Trump is hoping it will increase his popularity?

Mid-terms are very different to the election of a new president, though. I was thinking more in terms of Trump exploring ways of remaining for a third term. I don’t think that the election of a new president can take place whilst the nation is at war.

Wyllow3 Tue 03-Mar-26 00:06:54

Checked it out.

They are, in many news sources, discussing the "Effect of the war on the Mid Terms", so I think the answer is no, the election won't be stopped.

Rather, Trump is hoping it will increase his popularity?

Basgetti Mon 02-Mar-26 23:59:21

mae13

What in Heavens name compels men to rush to the destruct and destroy option to try and solve a problem?

Is it testosterone that pushes them down the worst possible path? Or - as is now blindingly obvious in Trump's case - the most toxic form of mental deviance?

Money and a desire to stay out of prison.

Am I correct in thinking that there would not be an election whilst the US were involved in a war?

Call me an old cynic…..

mae13 Mon 02-Mar-26 23:48:44

What in Heavens name compels men to rush to the destruct and destroy option to try and solve a problem?

Is it testosterone that pushes them down the worst possible path? Or - as is now blindingly obvious in Trump's case - the most toxic form of mental deviance?

Basgetti Mon 02-Mar-26 23:36:31

lixy

In my humble opinion Netanyahu is not stupid in any way.

He has played the egoistical Trump all the way into doing his dirty work. He says himself that he has been campaigning against Iran for 40 years, and seized this opportunity.

Netanyahu is not stupid, just plain wicked.

Spot on.

Maremia Mon 02-Mar-26 21:35:18

Reports that embassies in India and Pakistan are under siege.

Wyllow3 Mon 02-Mar-26 20:48:57

I think Starmer was saying that, since surely he was suggesting regime change by any military means was not good, but this time its been from the skies.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 02-Mar-26 20:47:45

Our regime change in Iraq can be absolutely linked to Iran's power.

There is always unintended consequences.

This will be no different. But regime change is by no means certain in such an established, concentrated and powerful theocracy.