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Trump Rebukes Starmer?

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mae13 Tue 03-Mar-26 11:42:46

Well, I never!

It seems Sir Keir's efforts as regards Iran just simply aren't good enough for Mister President.

That's gratitude for you.

AGAA4 Tue 03-Mar-26 11:48:43

He's miffed as Starmer didn't support the illegal attack. Typical Trump to have a hissy fit because he didn't get his own way.

REKA Tue 03-Mar-26 12:04:56

France has gone to the rescue

Maremia Tue 03-Mar-26 12:07:35

Completely out of order.

Ladyleftfieldlover Tue 03-Mar-26 12:12:15

Congress weren’t recalled, the UN weren’t involved, Iran was in the middle of negotiations, Starmer is a lawyer. It appears that trump has been pushing away his allies and cosying up to other bullies - Netanyahu and Putin. Why would any leader with half a brain want to get involved in this illegal war except in a defensive way?

Wheniwasyourage Tue 03-Mar-26 12:16:25

If Trump doesn't approve, Starmer must be doing something right. Good for him. I just hope he sticks to it…

Fallingstar Tue 03-Mar-26 12:56:56

So Trump slags off Europe and the UK for not helping out in the Iraq and Afghan wars, directly disrespecting allies and the terrible losses to their armed forces. And now when he clicks his fingers, with absolute no attempt to discuss the probable need for support in an imminent war, he expects us to jump up and support him in another illegal war.
Am glad Starmer’s legal training kicked in and he is only protecting British interests in the region, as I believe are France and Germany are doing for their interests. Whilst the Spanish leader was much more vocal in as good as telling Trump to get lost.

Casdon Tue 03-Mar-26 13:01:02

Are you eating your words of yesterday mael13, about Starmer being Trump’s lapdog?

keepingquiet Tue 03-Mar-26 13:16:54

I support Strmer's stance and hope he sticks to it.

eazybee Tue 03-Mar-26 13:31:50

I have finally got the key to Starmer. He favours International Law, which actually only operates by mutual consent, over British Law. We are in NATO and we are an ally of America.

This is the man who worked with Phil Shiner in prosecuting veterans of the Iraqi War, then denied it, then sent someone else to apologise to the House.He is attempting to overturn the 'Troubles,' Bill in order to prosecute N.Ireland veterans. The British pilots providing defence should be prepared for this.

NotSpaghetti Tue 03-Mar-26 13:43:31

I am pleased he's not supporting Trump in these illegal activities.
Good for him.

Elegran Tue 03-Mar-26 14:19:40

In an international situation it is of course international law which applies. It is no use telling a foreign head of state that Uk law says they can't do that in a third country. They would laugh in your face. The fact that Trump is as likely to ignore international law as he is to ignore the constitution of his own country is not a reason for Starmer to throw away the international lawbook. He is pretty keen on UK law, too, unlike some politicians.

Freya5 Tue 03-Mar-26 14:33:03

Elegran

In an international situation it is of course international law which applies. It is no use telling a foreign head of state that Uk law says they can't do that in a third country. They would laugh in your face. The fact that Trump is as likely to ignore international law as he is to ignore the constitution of his own country is not a reason for Starmer to throw away the international lawbook. He is pretty keen on UK law, too, unlike some politicians.

International Law. Let's wait and see how many other countries Iran attacks, just for the hell of it, even their next door neighbours, who had done nothing.Where was International Law, and Starmer, and the EU, when Iran thugs were murdering their own people. They cried for help, Starmer and his cronies denied them.
As soon as this evil regime has gone the better.

Fartooold Tue 03-Mar-26 14:35:47

Sir Keir Starmer 👏.Please stick to your guns. (Not literally)

Oreo Tue 03-Mar-26 14:54:57

NotSpaghetti

I am pleased he's not supporting Trump in these illegal activities.
Good for him.

Well…he has u turned again and now he is supporting the US as UK bases can now be used by them for defence in hitting the Iran missile sites.

Oreo Tue 03-Mar-26 14:55:41

Freya5

Elegran

In an international situation it is of course international law which applies. It is no use telling a foreign head of state that Uk law says they can't do that in a third country. They would laugh in your face. The fact that Trump is as likely to ignore international law as he is to ignore the constitution of his own country is not a reason for Starmer to throw away the international lawbook. He is pretty keen on UK law, too, unlike some politicians.

International Law. Let's wait and see how many other countries Iran attacks, just for the hell of it, even their next door neighbours, who had done nothing.Where was International Law, and Starmer, and the EU, when Iran thugs were murdering their own people. They cried for help, Starmer and his cronies denied them.
As soon as this evil regime has gone the better.

Freya
Absolutely! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 03-Mar-26 15:48:27

I'm not so sure that past history in Afghanistan and Iraq suggests that this will end well.

Oreo Tue 03-Mar-26 15:49:32

Different countries and different situations.

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 03-Mar-26 16:17:35

And with a consistently unsuccessful outcome.

AGAA4 Tue 03-Mar-26 16:30:10

Trump has no plan for Iran apart from bombing it to smithereens.
There is nothing to stop another dangerous regime rising up from the ashes.
The Iranians believe that the US and Israel are evil regimes so will that change.

LemonJam Tue 03-Mar-26 16:49:05

Trump rebuking Starmer or anyone else that does not carry out his bidding to expectation and timescale is petulant and not a surprise. Trump and his colleagues have gone around denigrating European leaders and countries successively over the past year- the outcome should not be a surprise.

T Blair sought approval for the invasion of Iraq, to assist US, from elected members of HoC- but even so the decision to take the UK into US Iraq war haunts his legacy and still causes public anger to this day. Trump has published no plan, seemingly has no agreed strategy and did not consult even his own Congress.

Trump is now learning ( or perhaps/probably not) his diplomacy style and behaviour is reaping unwanted rewards....

MayBee70 Tue 03-Mar-26 16:56:19

Chocolatelovinggran

And with a consistently unsuccessful outcome.

Didn’t it all start long ago with the west creating borders in the Middle East which, prior to that, had not existed? Is there a single example where our meddling has been for the good?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 03-Mar-26 17:09:19

There is a lot of misunderstanding or glossing over what law we are talking about.

As far as Trump and the USA is concerned, he has broken both the USA constitutional law and international law.

We and by that I mean the allies, must stick unwaveringly to the insistence that international law must be followed, because if we don’t the mighty will walk all over the rest, including ourselves.

These laws exist for a very good reason, and much wiser people than posters on GN including post WW2 diplomats, politicians and academics are responsible for their existence.

We ignore these laws at our absolute peril.

AGAA4 Tue 03-Mar-26 17:09:43

You are right MayBee70 the west has done so much damage interfering in other countries.

Meandrogrog Tue 03-Mar-26 17:25:19

Starmer should have supported Trump, he is weak and not fit to be PM.