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£10.000 offered to leave the UK. Form an orderly queue.

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Sarnia Thu 05-Mar-26 15:17:29

Shabana Mahmood has announced plans to pay £10,000 per person with a maximum of £40,000 for families of 4 or more as an incentive to leave the UK. These people are failed asylum seekers and have no right to be here so AIBU in thinking this money would be far better spent elsewhere? Surely having no right to stay means they should be deported and incentives shouldn't come into it.

petra Thu 05-Mar-26 19:31:12

Lathyrus3

petra

Lathyrus3

MaizieD

It's on the BBC website. It was there this morning

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j559146e6o

Thanks.

I don’t understand the offering money to failed asylum seekers either.

Can anybody explain why they shouldn’t just be repatriated?

A big problem is that their home countries don’t always want them back.
Another one is: as most destroy passports etc it’s a problem finding out where they have come from.
Then there’s the problem of the home office dealing with countries whose internet connections are poor.

I have often wondered how sending people back works in practice, because all the receiving country has to do is to refuse to allow the plane to land or the boat to dock.

It had never occurred to me that unauthorised immigrants just don’t say where they have come from so can’t be sent back. They could claim asylum though could they because they would need to identify an unsafe country.

So they say they are from X but because they don’t have a passport or identification X won’t take them?

I do not know if the money incentive will work for individuals. Perhas it should be offered to their home country instead? As an incentive to repatriate.

And how does a government get past the resentment factor f British citizens to whom £10,000 would be like a gift from the gods.

No easy answer is there? But I’m not convinced that this ‘quick fix” of a reward for illegal entry won’t just make things worse.

You’re right, there is no easy answer.
When you realise there are 15-18 counties inand around the Middle East all speaking Arabic.
Let’s suppose you have arrived in Spain from Morocco ( thousands have) then cross the Chanel.
You speak Arabic, your Moroccan. But you could say that you’ve come from several war hotspots in the Middle East.
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Casdon Thu 05-Mar-26 19:19:06

Can I suggest people read this.
news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-mandelson-starmer-labour-farage-badenoch-12593360#11204744

Graphite Thu 05-Mar-26 19:14:16

People criticise how much it costs to accommodate asylum seekers whether it’s in hotels, old military bases etc and all the ancillary costs of ongoing support including any benefit payments if families remain.

In fact, a lot of the first-year costs for supporting refugees and asylum seekers come out of the ODA budget anyway; money that used to be send as foreign aid is now used in the UK - over a quarter of the budget.

£10,000 is probably far less than it costs to support families ongoing. It probably costs much more to enforce deportations.

I believe up until now, the UK had offered up to £3,000 for voluntary returns,. It was previously revealed that £53m had been paid to migrants to leave the country over the past four years. (Source Independent Nov 2025).

This is only a pilot scheme said to involve 150 families. I’ll wait to see what's in the fine detail of the scheme rather than rely on the inevitable screaming tabloid headlines.

sharon103 Thu 05-Mar-26 19:10:44

I daren't type what I think.
I'll get banned.

valdavi Thu 05-Mar-26 19:00:48

It's annoying but it's a cost / benefit analysis I guess.

If the government moves to forcibly removing them, they have a right to appeal the decision and the government need to pay for them to be detained until that process is completed. Legal fees and accommodation will cost more then the £10k, so if they go voluntarily it's quicker and cheaper.

A controversial policy for many reasons, but with the asylum claim processing back-log, maybe it's a case of desperate times require desperate measures.

Lathyrus3 Thu 05-Mar-26 18:55:01

petra

Lathyrus3

MaizieD

It's on the BBC website. It was there this morning

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j559146e6o

Thanks.

I don’t understand the offering money to failed asylum seekers either.

Can anybody explain why they shouldn’t just be repatriated?

A big problem is that their home countries don’t always want them back.
Another one is: as most destroy passports etc it’s a problem finding out where they have come from.
Then there’s the problem of the home office dealing with countries whose internet connections are poor.

I have often wondered how sending people back works in practice, because all the receiving country has to do is to refuse to allow the plane to land or the boat to dock.

It had never occurred to me that unauthorised immigrants just don’t say where they have come from so can’t be sent back. They could claim asylum though could they because they would need to identify an unsafe country.

So they say they are from X but because they don’t have a passport or identification X won’t take them?

I do not know if the money incentive will work for individuals. Perhas it should be offered to their home country instead? As an incentive to repatriate.

And how does a government get past the resentment factor f British citizens to whom £10,000 would be like a gift from the gods.

No easy answer is there? But I’m not convinced that this ‘quick fix” of a reward for illegal entry won’t just make things worse.

Tuliptree Thu 05-Mar-26 18:49:44

Graphite

MT62
You do know Graphite, that some abscond into the distance. They don’t all rock up to boarder control.
In that case, how would they have been through the asylum system and be offered money to leave? If you are going to discuss the issue at least do it logically.

Oh come on, you really are a grade 1 spoilsport. 😂 Facts, logic, rational thought <sigh>

Graphite Thu 05-Mar-26 18:45:48

MT62

You do know Graphite, that some abscond into the distance. They don’t all rock up to boarder control.

In that case, how would they have been through the asylum system and be offered money to leave? If you are going to discuss the issue at least do it logically.

MT62 Thu 05-Mar-26 18:18:34

You do know Graphite, that some abscond into the distance. They don’t all rock up to boarder control.

midgey Thu 05-Mar-26 18:10:42

I don’t think this is a new scheme, I’m sure it is recycled. Tories definitely tried it I think when they sent a lorry around telling people to go home.

MT62 Thu 05-Mar-26 18:09:49

I don’t have a license to watch the BBC Casdon I’ll just rely on you to put me right 🙄

Tuliptree Thu 05-Mar-26 18:05:25

Graphite

Not quite that simple and only a pilot scheme for 150 families. They have seven days to decide.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/mar/05/shabana-mahmood-accused-of-mimicking-trump-as-she-announces-immigration-plans

Oh goodness don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant. Meanie 😂

Graphite Thu 05-Mar-26 17:59:53

MT62

glammagran

Can you imagine giving them 10,000 to leave and then 3 months later them reappearing for another handout.

Under another identity 😩
Most absolutely stupid idea yet.
Yet we have patients being treated on hospital corridors for days on end.

You do know that biometric information (fingerprints and facial photographs) is taken from asylum seekers upon arrival or early in the application process.

This information is used to support the removal or deportation process if their claim is refused.

petra Thu 05-Mar-26 17:53:27

Lathyrus3

MaizieD

It's on the BBC website. It was there this morning

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j559146e6o

Thanks.

I don’t understand the offering money to failed asylum seekers either.

Can anybody explain why they shouldn’t just be repatriated?

A big problem is that their home countries don’t always want them back.
Another one is: as most destroy passports etc it’s a problem finding out where they have come from.
Then there’s the problem of the home office dealing with countries whose internet connections are poor.

Casdon Thu 05-Mar-26 17:51:25

MT62

They won’t DNA them because it will be against their human rights!

Have you read the small print MT62? I don’t get on board with condemning things until I know the facts, why do so many do that - or maybe you have read them, and can give us the detail?

pably15 Thu 05-Mar-26 17:46:10

people can't see an NHS dentist here because dentists are not being paid enough, so they only take private patients now. but there's money to spend ...or give away to illegal immigrants.
This countries government does not take care of it's own..

MT62 Thu 05-Mar-26 17:37:28

They won’t DNA them because it will be against their human rights!

MT62 Thu 05-Mar-26 17:34:38

glammagran

Can you imagine giving them 10,000 to leave and then 3 months later them reappearing for another handout.

Under another identity 😩
Most absolutely stupid idea yet.
Yet we have patients being treated on hospital corridors for days on end.

Casdon Thu 05-Mar-26 17:33:57

That’s why I want to see the small print. It would not be possible for that to happen if they are DNA profiled?

glammagran Thu 05-Mar-26 17:20:50

Can you imagine giving them 10,000 to leave and then 3 months later them reappearing for another handout.

Allira Thu 05-Mar-26 17:16:36

Grandmadinosaur

Words fail me.
And there was no money in the coffers for waspi payouts. 😬

Well,there's another unintended notch in Reform's belt, I would imagine.

Casdon Thu 05-Mar-26 17:15:43

Where did you read a the small print Sarnia? I just looked, I can’t find it.

Sarnia Thu 05-Mar-26 17:13:53

TillyTrotter

Very surprised.
If a family made it to our waters, failed the legal asylum criteria, and go away with that amount of money,
how is it supposed that they can be prevented from trying again in 12 months time?
By the way I am not opposed to families coming here from countries in conflict, legally. Integrating and working to a better, safe life.

I am happy for families coming here for safety and a better quality of life too. Most families seem to apply through the proper channels these days.
This new scheme is full of holes.

Lathyrus3 Thu 05-Mar-26 17:12:03

MaizieD

It's on the BBC website. It was there this morning

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j559146e6o

Thanks.

I don’t understand the offering money to failed asylum seekers either.

Can anybody explain why they shouldn’t just be repatriated?

MaizieD Thu 05-Mar-26 17:05:11

It's on the BBC website. It was there this morning

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0j559146e6o