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Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

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mae13 Fri 13-Mar-26 08:44:57

.......even if he wants to because he's lost control of Netanyahu.

The Israeli military is going berserk with the full blessing of Netanyahu. The US giving him support was a disastrous mis-calculation and now Israel seemingly doesn't need Trump anymore.

If he thought he would have the Iran business done and dusted in about a week, and he would come out of it as King of the World........well, his biggest mistake (among many) so far.

Maremia Mon 30-Mar-26 12:32:35

Think we are going to need a new Thread about this.

Maremia Mon 30-Mar-26 12:30:39

Trump was never that student.

Maremia Mon 30-Mar-26 12:29:54

BBC explaining that Trump may take the island , but then the troops will be sitting targets, and will have supply line problems.
Apparently similar 'traps' occurred in the Vietnam war, but you'd have to be a military history student to know this.

Allira Mon 30-Mar-26 12:24:10

Maremia

Think they backed down Allira, after lots of international attention.

Good!

Maremia Mon 30-Mar-26 12:23:24

Trump is now saying that a deal is expected soon
but also that he will take that island.
Maybe his bone-spurs have healed.

Maremia Mon 30-Mar-26 12:22:10

The ban on religious services were in the interests of 'security' it has been alleged.

Maremia Mon 30-Mar-26 12:21:26

Think they backed down Allira, after lots of international attention.

butterandjam Mon 30-Mar-26 11:58:56

Whitewavemark2

I see that Trump has lifted the Russian oil sanctions on Cuba!

Can anyone make any sense of that?

Trump is desperate for any excuse to invade Cuba, Greenland, Chagos and Kharg island and make them into American States .

I'm a bit worried he might get ideas about Cyprus but he probably hasn't found that on a map yet.

Allira Mon 30-Mar-26 11:55:50

MollyNew

Hegseth is an Evangelican Christian who wants to change the the US military chaplaincy, which he sees as being "infected by political correctness". According to the Guardian today, he recently held a prayer service at the Pentagon and prayed for "overwhelming violence of action against those who deserve no mercy".

Meanwhile, in Jerusalem yesterday the Israeli police prevented Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in to conduct mass.

So Iran, USA and Israel all claim to have God on their side. They can't all be right. As a Humanist, I worry about the future of our world.

Meanwhile, in Jerusalem yesterday the Israeli police prevented Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in to conduct mass.

It was Palm Sunday! 😲
This is the holiest week of the Christian calendar.

fancythat Mon 30-Mar-26 11:52:38

There is no knowing how this war will end.

Maremia Mon 30-Mar-26 11:28:44

On the BBC just now, Spain intends to close air space to all US flights involved in the war.

MollyNew Mon 30-Mar-26 11:04:08

Hegseth is an Evangelican Christian who wants to change the the US military chaplaincy, which he sees as being "infected by political correctness". According to the Guardian today, he recently held a prayer service at the Pentagon and prayed for "overwhelming violence of action against those who deserve no mercy".

Meanwhile, in Jerusalem yesterday the Israeli police prevented Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in to conduct mass.

So Iran, USA and Israel all claim to have God on their side. They can't all be right. As a Humanist, I worry about the future of our world.

Maremia Mon 30-Mar-26 11:00:12

I think the Pope has quietly spoken out against the Hegseth Crusaders.

Norah Mon 30-Mar-26 10:57:36

Whitewavemark2

I see that Trump has lifted the Russian oil sanctions on Cuba!

Can anyone make any sense of that?

NYT quote: “The private sector in Cuba is quite small,” Mr. Rubio told reporters this week at a summit of Caribbean nations. “It exists, but it’s small, and it certainly, in and of itself, does not have the capacity to deal with the scale and scope of the challenges they’re facing. But if the Cuban economy were a functioning economy, it would have a much larger private sector.”

Cuba’s government has long blamed a U.S. trade embargo and sanctions for crippling the country, but the Trump administration says the Communist regime, which controls nearly every sector of the economy, is to blame for running Cuba into the ground.

The Trump administration wants to encourage the Cuban government to undertake changes to allow private enterprise to flourish, said a senior U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic matters.

Though the initial shipments of oil to Cuba are modest, experts say the Trump administration is sending a message to Cuba’s government that digging out from the country’s economic free fall will require cooperation with the United States.

“The strategy here is to show the Cubans and the world that the only lifeline that Cuba has left is the United States,” said Ricardo Herrero, executive director of the Cuba Study Group, a nonpartisan policy and advocacy group in Washington. “That doesn’t mean choke them off. That means leave it clear that they have become a de facto dependency of the United States.’’

Perhaps Cuba is viewed as state 51, whist leaving Greenland alone?

ayse Mon 30-Mar-26 10:57:05

Back to the future! The Crusades, overturning the Ottoman Empire etc. not to mention Iran/Iraq war, Afghanistan……..

All the while ordinary people suffer across the board!

AGAA4 Mon 30-Mar-26 10:44:47

Hegseth is clearly out of control and Trump is incapable of coherent thought.
There's no hope.

Iam64 Mon 30-Mar-26 10:43:21

Hesgeth is terrifying and dangerous. Remember the unmentionables N…s had god with us on their helmets

MaizieD Mon 30-Mar-26 10:37:41

Apparently, last week at the Pentagon, Hegseth prayed for:

"overwhelming violence of action against those who deserve no mercy … We ask these things with bold confidence in the mighty and powerful name of Jesus Christ".

I have no words...

AGAA4 Mon 30-Mar-26 10:27:06

Trump seems to be guided by Hegseth, who as foxie has posted is turning this war into a Christian crusade.
Religious zealots are dangerous. Believing God is on your side while slaughtering people goes against what I believe Christianity is about.
Many were against his appointment as he seemed to be an unstable drunk but again Trump didn't listen.

MaizieD Mon 30-Mar-26 09:43:57

David49

MaizieD

David49

Economic fallout is looming already Qatar is in trouble because Iran put its LNG gas plant out of action and will take 3 yrs to repair. Qatar is heavily invested in UK property, we will feel the pressure.

I'm sorry. hmm

Can you explain how Qatari investment in UK property is going to put pressure on us?

It is estimated the Qatar has £100 billion invested in property, if that has to be sold UK values will fall sharply

Qataris may have to sell at a loss. It's they who will be affected.

Otherwise, how is falling property value going to affect the UK economy?

foxie48 Mon 30-Mar-26 09:39:20

AGAA4 no need to worry, Hegseth is basically turning this war into a Christian crusade so the troops will be protected by God. Honestly, if I read it in a book I'd think it was a bit far fetched, the man is a dangerous zealot!

"He hosts monthly Christian worship services for employees. His department's promotional videos have displayed Bible verses alongside military footage. In speeches and interviews, he often argues the U.S. was founded as a Christian nation and troops should embrace God, potentially risking the military's secular mission and hard-won pluralism.

Now the defense secretary's Christian rhetoric has taken on new meaning after the U.S. and Israel went to war with Iran, an Islamic theocracy."
www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/pete-hegseths-christian-rhetoric-reignites-scrutiny-after-the-u-s-goes-to-war-with-iran

AGAA4 Mon 30-Mar-26 09:23:04

BBC this morning. Trump has said that stupid people back in the US have told him it's not a good idea to use troops in Iran. But they are stupid people.
The arrogance of this man who takes advice only from people who agree with him.
He is risking the lives of his military on one of his reckless ideas and this still won't open the Strait of Hormuz.

petra Mon 30-Mar-26 08:55:19

This was an excellent series on radio 4.
How the CIA got it so wrong ( nothing new there) in the removal of the Shah.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m0022sk8

Whitewavemark2 Mon 30-Mar-26 08:51:38

I see that Trump has lifted the Russian oil sanctions on Cuba!

Can anyone make any sense of that?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 30-Mar-26 08:50:22

Which is exactly if Trump had a modicum of intelligence and Israel a modicum of morality neither would be acting as they are.

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