Sickening antisemitic attack.

Remembering the attack on Israel 7th October 2023 by Hamas,
Netanyahu is not stupid , mindless

Anniebach

Remembering the attack on Israel 7th October 2023 by Hamas,
Netanyahu is not stupid , mindless

Ok, but exacting revenge on the wrong people.

Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith The Lord.

No, he isn’t. He’s calculating and viscious.

I believe it was an Iranian aligned terrorist group that claimed responsibility for the arson. In which case it would be a revenge attack for what is happening in Iran not Gaza.
And am pretty sure there will be more of this.
Trump and Netanyahu are the perpetrators of these war crimes but as usual innocent people are being targeted.

Trump and Netanyahu are the perpetrators of these war crimes

We must not forget the crimes of terrorist groups either who murder innocent people, babies and children too.

Strictly speaking, and although not specifically a law, Jews by tradition, give 10% of their income to charity, this is known as Tzedakah.

It is historically associated with Temple times, when farmers gave 10% of their produce to the Levites. (Descendants of Jacob's son Levi).

If it causes hardship to give 10% of income, then food or service is acceptable. In Judaism, charity is not seen as something extra that should be done, but a part of everyday life that is honest and moral.

Being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions - but it seems it's Jews who get attacked for it.

And in my humble opinion, anyone who equates what's going on in the Middle East with ambulances, used and funded by volunteers, being blown to smithereens in Golders Green are as ignorant and bigoted as those who carried out this atrocity.

Allira

^Trump and Netanyahu are the perpetrators of these war crimes^

We must not forget the crimes of terrorist groups either who murder innocent people, babies and children too.

Of course not. As I said it is innocent people who suffer.

ferry23

Strictly speaking, and although not specifically a law, Jews by tradition, give 10% of their income to charity, this is known as Tzedakah.

It is historically associated with Temple times, when farmers gave 10% of their produce to the Levites. (Descendants of Jacob's son Levi).

If it causes hardship to give 10% of income, then food or service is acceptable. In Judaism, charity is not seen as something extra that should be done, but a part of everyday life that is honest and moral.

Being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions - but it seems it's Jews who get attacked for it.

And in my humble opinion, anyone who equates what's going on in the Middle East with ambulances, used and funded by volunteers, being blown to smithereens in Golders Green are as ignorant and bigoted as those who carried out this atrocity.

I agree.
The thing is they don’t think it through they just want to commit atrocities against those they see as supporting the war in Iran. Just as Trump and Netanyahu don’t see the human suffering they cause the terrorists don’t either.
So much hate.

Netanyahu is at least defending his country; which is fighting for survival.
Trump is not.

As Hamas wants to kill all Jews

eazybee

Netanyahu is at least defending his country; which is fighting for survival.
Trump is not.

We have relatives in Israel and I don’t think Netanyahu is making their homeland any safer. In fact the opposite is true. The whole ME is now in flames and the people who live in countries where the populations has historically hated Israel will not forget their dead, there will be generations who will continue to hate and attack Israel even more as a result of this. As the saying goes ‘in the ME we have long memories’.

*where the populations have not ‘has’

ferry23

Strictly speaking, and although not specifically a law, Jews by tradition, give 10% of their income to charity, this is known as Tzedakah.

It is historically associated with Temple times, when farmers gave 10% of their produce to the Levites. (Descendants of Jacob's son Levi).

If it causes hardship to give 10% of income, then food or service is acceptable. In Judaism, charity is not seen as something extra that should be done, but a part of everyday life that is honest and moral.

Being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions - but it seems it's Jews who get attacked for it.

And in my humble opinion, anyone who equates what's going on in the Middle East with ambulances, used and funded by volunteers, being blown to smithereens in Golders Green are as ignorant and bigoted as those who carried out this atrocity.

This shows a shocking level of ignorance, too

Did you not know that in Islam, giving 10% of ones income to charity to help the most needy is also required?

Both religions require this of and by the most faithful!!!

The thing is none of this is to do with religion.
Is to do with power and greed.

And many Christian denominations encouraged 'tithing', it's not exclusive to Jews and Muslims, I think the 10% to charity is quite widespread amongst religions.

Anniebach

As Hamas wants to kill all Jews

Hamas are a vile and horrendous terrorist group.

Not every Palestinian citizen is, especially children.

I was very careful to put that being charitable and helping other is a tenet of all major religions

Some of you must have not read my post properly.

Wyllow3

I'm always appalled when any minority group is attacked in vile and horrible ways.

Have been since my Dad talked about the hostility from some when he helped Jewish refugees post WW2. Mum and Dad were involved in the Peace Movements with Quakers and other very significant figures.
I have no doubt at that time it came from the remnants of the right Wing Moseley crew or just wanton ignorance, and to some extent, still does.

Then there were the "No blacks" notices in windows and Enoch Powells rivers of blood speech. Prejudice and hate have always been with us sometimes from those living here for many generations and sometimes between different groupings.

So now I find myself disgusted by any terrorist or hate attacks on any group that has sought to live in peace in our country, in stead of seeking to know and understand each other.

I have no doubt that what is happening abroad is related to what happens at home in terms of taking dislike or hate into violence: we can do at home is consider it absolutely beyond the pale, and seek to continue to build bridges wherever possible, and seek out and punish those who transgress in the strongest of ways.

And for me that includes not just violent actions, but the SM and other means: I mean only SM and speeches that directly whip up hatred and plans or co-ordinate attacks against groups or individuals.

We have to look at the climate that these attacks occur in, be it at home, or news from abroad, and act accordingly.

What little can we do, but try and build bridges where possible in personal and political ways? Contribute financially if we can.

I know this post comes across as stiff and theoretical, but to me it's not, believe me. Its been lifelong.

Well said

Wyllow3

ferry23

Strictly speaking, and although not specifically a law, Jews by tradition, give 10% of their income to charity, this is known as Tzedakah.

It is historically associated with Temple times, when farmers gave 10% of their produce to the Levites. (Descendants of Jacob's son Levi).

If it causes hardship to give 10% of income, then food or service is acceptable. In Judaism, charity is not seen as something extra that should be done, but a part of everyday life that is honest and moral.

Being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions - but it seems it's Jews who get attacked for it.

And in my humble opinion, anyone who equates what's going on in the Middle East with ambulances, used and funded by volunteers, being blown to smithereens in Golders Green are as ignorant and bigoted as those who carried out this atrocity.

This shows a shocking level of ignorance, too

Did you not know that in Islam, giving 10% of ones income to charity to help the most needy is also required?

Both religions require this of and by the most faithful!!!

Wyllow, have I misunderstood your post? Are you accusing ferry of a shocking level of ignorance ? ferry posted “being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions”

The same point has been made by other posters.

Wyllow3 - I thank you not to accuse me of being ignorant. You clearly didn't read my post properly. Your posts are frequently open to criticism and at odds with what I would consider to be balanced and well judged comments, but never would I dream of accusing you of ignorance.

I may now however accuse you of being very rude.

Quote Cossy Tue 24-Mar-26 12:39:57
Anniebach
As Hamas wants to kill all Jews

Hamas are a vile and horrendous terrorist group.

Not every Palestinian citizen is, especially children.

I assume children didn’t vote for Hamas in June 2007

I was appalled when I first read about what was clearly a targeted attack on our beleaguered and increasingly vulnerable Jewish community. Continually in the firing line and expected to bear the collective guilt for whatever crimes the Israeli government is committing. As Oreo stated up -thread, "there was never a golden age where anti semitism didn't exist" The resonance of history repeating itself again and again against the Jewish community, to make them feel marginalised and at times ensuing isolation and fear is utterly horrible. There are small enclaves of their people scattered throughout Britain, I've seen up close motorcades going around unchallenged into an area where Jewish people are just going about their lives, to intimidate them. Worse still those who do that appear to get away with it.

'Being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions
but it seems it's Jews who get attacked for it'
Not clear what you mean by this ferry23
One meaning could be that of the major religions only Jews are attacked for being generous
or
that only Jews are being attacked for belonging to a specific religious group
or something entirely different.

eazybee

Netanyahu is at least defending his country; which is fighting for survival.
Trump is not.

What?

Iam64

Wyllow3

ferry23

Strictly speaking, and although not specifically a law, Jews by tradition, give 10% of their income to charity, this is known as Tzedakah.

It is historically associated with Temple times, when farmers gave 10% of their produce to the Levites. (Descendants of Jacob's son Levi).

If it causes hardship to give 10% of income, then food or service is acceptable. In Judaism, charity is not seen as something extra that should be done, but a part of everyday life that is honest and moral.

Being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions - but it seems it's Jews who get attacked for it.

And in my humble opinion, anyone who equates what's going on in the Middle East with ambulances, used and funded by volunteers, being blown to smithereens in Golders Green are as ignorant and bigoted as those who carried out this atrocity.

This shows a shocking level of ignorance, too

Did you not know that in Islam, giving 10% of ones income to charity to help the most needy is also required?

Both religions require this of and by the most faithful!!!

Wyllow, have I misunderstood your post? Are you accusing ferry of a shocking level of ignorance ? ferry posted “being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions”

The same point has been made by other posters.

ferry posted “being charitable or helping others is a tenet of all major religions”

Yes and I remember when it was suggested at the C of E Church we attended when I was young, that the congregation give 10% of their earnings to the church instead of putting money into the collection each week. It was known as tithing.

However, as it was not clear what the money was intended for, several of the congregation decided this was something they could not afford to do. We used to help to do Church breakfasts on Sundays which was our contribution.